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Re:Psilocybin 'promising' for depression by varispeed on Thursday April 15, 2021 @10:37AM (#26821046)
I think the people behind drug prohibition need reckoning. They have caused untold suffering, especially by preventing people from accessing medication they needed. There is no justification for drug prohibition to continue. If anyone thinks otherwise, then it only means they have not educated themselves enough about the topic, they profit from the current status quo or simply they take pleasure in causing suffering to other people.
Re:Psilocybin 'promising' for depression by zepto on Thursday April 15, 2021 @11:09AM (#26821394)
No justification for prohibition, but quite possibly justification for regulation.
Re:Psilocybin 'promising' for depression by varispeed on Thursday April 15, 2021 @11:37AM (#26821762)
Yes the market should be regulated. Some substances can be more dangerous than others so there should be adequate restrictions and support plus raised tax could help with mental health services and education to ensure people can make informed decisions and also receive help if they get it wrong.
Re:Psilocybin 'promising' for depression by wil421 on Thursday April 15, 2021 @11:48AM (#26821932)
Cocaine, Heroin, Meth, and Fentanyl should never be legal. They are too addicting.

Possession in a small amount should be decriminalized using a stick (drunk tank for a couple days) or carrot (state run rehab or classes) method.

Stop the prosecutions and jailing of the users. Mandate a class or whatever like they do for DUIs and provide a state run place to ween them off. Combined with a safe place to do drugs and safe needles.

Re:Psilocybin 'promising' for depression by barbacoa on Thursday April 15, 2021 @12:47PM (#26822920)
>Cocaine, Heroin, Meth, and Fentanyl should never be legal. They are too addicting.

I know 10X as many people who threw away their lives working minimum wage and minimum responsibility jobs just so that they can afford enough marijuana to make themselves happy with living without ambition.

Not that I think marijuana should be illegal but if we are going to legalize one we should be consistent and legalize everything.

Re:Psilocybin 'promising' for depression by meepmorp on Thursday April 15, 2021 @02:07PM (#26824084)
If they're happy with the lives they live, then how are their lives wasted? Is it possible they just have different values?
Re:Psilocybin 'promising' for depression by vokep on Thursday April 15, 2021 @02:41PM (#26824534)
It comes down to each individual I guess, but I'm doubtful that such people are really very happy. Smoking every day to offload stress can seem nice, until you're looking back on all the time you could've used better, and realize its not making you happy, it just distracts from what makes you unhappy. It can be really fun to add to experiences that are already enjoyable, and every now and then it can be helpful to offload stress during something undesirable, but if its use is too frequent, given my own experience and those around me, it does become a black hole of time. The old South Park explanation was quite spot on, it makes you alright with being bored, when being bored should motivate to do something.

All that said, with conscious planning to use it in a productive way, I've found incredible enhancement of working on creative projects while stoned out of my mind.

Re:Psilocybin 'promising' for depression by varispeed on Thursday April 15, 2021 @12:27PM (#26822588)
> Cocaine, Heroin, Meth, and Fentanyl should never be legal. They are too addicting.

These drugs should be legal precisely because they are so dangerous. The key is adequate regulation appropriate for the potential danger.

Re:Psilocybin 'promising' for depression by kar5pt on Thursday April 15, 2021 @09:36PM (#26828359)
The problem with this is it's biased against poor people. Rich addicts can afford to only be users, but poor addicts are the ones that need to deal to support their habit. So if you jail dealers, you're disproportionately jailing poor people.
Re:Psilocybin 'promising' for depression by fuzzer37 on Thursday April 15, 2021 @12:15PM (#26822390)
> Cocaine, Heroin, Meth, and Fentanyl should never be legal. They are too addicting.

Maybe for you, but why should you be the arbiter of what other people do? Make it legal and tax substances to the point that the revenue offsets the potential negatives.

Re:Psilocybin 'promising' for depression by scottLobster on Thursday April 15, 2021 @01:07PM (#26823222)
Because those people don't live in a vacuum.

I know I'm just one case, but as someone who's mother got addicted to legally prescribed Fentanyl as well as other opioids as a result of her cancer treatments, and to had serve as caregiver for said mother when said drugs sent her into irrational rages and occasionally made her suicidal (she later admitted to not remembering multiple months of time from the years she was on it), the libertarian individual choice argument is particularly full of shit when it comes to these substances.

There are some things that the average human biology simply cannot handle. Making said substances illegal or regulating them such that they are impossible for the average person to get is perfectly rational and beneficial for society. Naturally treatment centers should be provided for those who manage to obtain them illegally as opposed to jail time, and that's the part we suck at. No rational person with purpose seeks out illegal opioids, it's a symptom of underlying issues and should be treated as such, not punished.

Psilocybin, Marijuana, Tobacco and Alcohol are completely different animals. And yes there are people who can't handle these, but the vast majority of the population is capable of doing so and/or the consequences are less severe when they are mishandled. You can't say that about opioids.

Same reason even in the US while I can own an AR-15, I cannot own a Patriot Missile Battery. One the average individual can be relatively trusted with, the other they cannot.

Re:Psilocybin 'promising' for depression by kar5pt on Thursday April 15, 2021 @10:06PM (#26828550)
Except a hundred years of experience has shown us that "regulating drugs until they're no longer in existence" is not possible. What actually happens is drugs become more expensive and more dangerous. You bring up legally prescribed opioids, but those are drugs that people take because they're encouraged to do so by a doctor. Your mother most likely wouldn't have taken Fentanyl if it was just legalized, but not prescribed to her. Most people who would take legalized drugs will also take them when they're illegal.
Re:Psilocybin 'promising' for depression by captainredbeard on Thursday April 15, 2021 @04:39PM (#26825842)
> Same reason even in the US while I can own an AR-15, I cannot own a Patriot Missile Battery

Au Contraire! Explosives are just very difficult to buy because you must go through an approval process to purchase a "destructive device" and the storage regulations, which vary widely from area to area, are (rightfully) difficult and expensive to comply with.

Re:Psilocybin 'promising' for depression by bunfunton on Thursday April 15, 2021 @12:32PM (#26822679)
I mean marijuana is more addicting to me than cocaine so....
Re:Psilocybin 'promising' for depression by wil421 on Thursday April 15, 2021 @01:37PM (#26823636)
Yes but no one is doing crackhead or dopehead things when they want Marijuana.
Re:Psilocybin 'promising' for depression by kar5pt on Thursday April 15, 2021 @09:37PM (#26828369)
I'm guessing that's because you don't do cocaine.