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Re:DuckDuckGo Extension to Block FLoC, Google’s New Tracking... by 1vuio0pswjnm7 on Thursday April 15, 2021 @05:09AM (#26818010)
Under terms of an agreement, FF sends search bar queries to a "search engine that makes money from selling ads." The search engine belongs to an online ad services company. FF belongs to Mozilla Corporation. The agreement is between the ad services company and Mozilla Corporation. Mozilla Corporation pays the salaries of the developers who maintain FF. Almost all of Mozilla Corporation's income, certainly 100% of their profits, comes from the agreement with the online ad services company. Sadly, donations are not what keeps Mozilla and FF in business.

Sure, DDG might be robbing Peter to pay Paul, but so is Mozilla. They sell out every FF user who does not change default settings. This must be a significant number of users, because the online ad services company pays millions to Mozilla for that "service". That means heaps of queries coming from FF are "feeding the ecosystem".

Re:DuckDuckGo Extension to Block FLoC, Google’s New Tracking... by ArneBab on Thursday April 15, 2021 @06:26AM (#26818603)
They try to get away from that model, though. Not very successfully (how to get people to pay for a browser?), but they try.
Re:DuckDuckGo Extension to Block FLoC, Google’s New Tracking... by ronjouch on Thursday April 15, 2021 @08:03AM (#26819371)
> "They try to get away from that model, though. Not very successfully [...], but they try."

Honest question: do they? What evidence supports the assertion that they do try? I haven't seen any story suggesting Mozilla is trying to get away from that model of funding Firefox.

> "(how to get people to pay for a browser?)"

The Thunderbird email client (formerly maintained by Mozilla) switched to being independent from Mozilla and asking for donations; so far they are successful. Donations are now sustaining a team of 15, thanks to yearly 2.3 M$ donations [1], and they keep hiring.

"A team of 15 isn't remotely enough to sustain Firefox", you may say, and you'd be right. But then, if Thunderbird is able to find enough donation money for 15, what would Firefox (who is way more popular than Thunderbird) be able to score if it found the courage to make its case to its users, and ask for money? Could it afford a staff of 150? More?

[1] https://groups.google.com/g/tb-planning/c/-jbmYvYdX1g , https://www.reddit.com/r/opensource/comments/m9td33/thunderb...

Re:DuckDuckGo Extension to Block FLoC, Google’s New Tracking... by account42 on Friday April 16, 2021 @06:23AM (#26832025)
> "(how to get people to pay for a browser?)"

For starters, they could let people donate towards browser development.