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Re:System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment by kaibee on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @04:22PM (#26798699)
Drop the 4K IPS for a 2560x1440 panel instead.
Re:System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment by bmurphy1976 on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @04:37PM (#26798925)
My aging eyesight says no. 4k or bust for me.
Re:System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment by valvar on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @04:46PM (#26799035)
What's your logic there? I would have thought that if your eyesight is poor, resolution matters much less as you can't tell the difference. You'd want to scale things 2-4 times anyway.
Re:System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment by bmurphy1976 on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @04:48PM (#26799073)
2x scaling at 4k is comfortable and crisply rendered fonts are a MUST. My eyes are far more fatigued at the end of the day if font rendering isn't crystal clear. Other resolutions require non-integer scaling and my experience with that has been... not great.
Re:System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment by skrtskrt on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @06:05PM (#26799946)
I am in the exact same boat, 2x scaling at 4k. I am young but I wear contacts that are not an exact perfect prescription due to the limitations of contacts.

But people will swear up and down to me that there is no way I could possibly tell the difference between screens.

You can literally see individual pixels on a 1080p screen!

I am on Macbooks, but I want to switch to something with Linux so I am waiting for the gen 9 Thinkpad X1C with 4k screen to be available at some reasonable price.

Font rendering is also clearly worse on Linux than Mac, making the fuzzy pixels even more unworkable. I dual booted a 2015 Macbook Air into several Linux distros and I could barely read the text no matter which settings were applied.

More relevant to the overall thread: Pop OS is awesome.

Re:System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment by da_big_ghey on Wednesday April 14, 2021 @06:01AM (#26804958)
> Pop OS is awesome.

Yes, they are needing for to change name, however. "Pop_OS!" is very a stupid name, no low hyphen "_" charactir or exclimation in name is good. Only "Pop OS" is good.

Re:System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment by Fr3ck on Wednesday April 14, 2021 @08:05AM (#26805911)
I agree. But it is actually Pop!_OS :)
Re:System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment by PoignardAzur on Wednesday April 14, 2021 @05:27PM (#26813348)
I hate you, and I wish this was Reddit so I could give you gold.
Re:System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment by hyakosm on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @05:53PM (#26799832)
2x scaling in 4K is the Hi-DPI equivalent of 1080p: on 13 or 14 inch screens, elements on screen are really tiny. On this screen size, we have mainly 1280x800 (Apple) or 1366x720 (PC) resolutions, where the Hi-DPI or Retina equivalent (2x scaling) is 2K.

With GNOME, screen elements (texts, windows and widgets) are big (way bigger than macOS or Windows). In this case 1080p-like at 2x scaling should be OK with this screen size.

Re:System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment by pkulak on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @06:31PM (#26800269)
You can do 2x scaling on a 14" laptop at 4k? That's way too small for me.
Re:System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment by rubyist5eva on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @04:39PM (#26798945)
at 14" is the difference even distinguishable? I can barely tell the difference between 1080p and retina on screens that small
Re:System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment by bmurphy1976 on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @04:48PM (#26799062)
It's complicated. For me it's about how smooth the text is and how consistent the experience is. 4k with 2x (integer scaling) is a pleasant balance of crisp rendering and appropriate text size.

The lower resolutions would require non-integer scaling and so far my experience doing that in Linux environments has been very poor. I don't expect this to be a smooth experience any time in the near future. I'd love to be proven wrong though.

Re:System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment by powersnail on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @08:11PM (#26801370)
The difference is huge for me, especially for reading texts. The rending quality is night and day.
Re:System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment by dTal on Wednesday April 14, 2021 @05:57AM (#26804938)
Between 1080 and WQHD, sure. But between WQHD and 4k?
Re:System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment by powersnail on Thursday April 15, 2021 @04:40PM (#26825857)
Yes, I can definitely tell. I have owned both WQHD and 4K laptops. At least for text, I can tell the difference at first sight, and I’m more comfortable with 4K.
Re:System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment by akvadrako on Wednesday April 14, 2021 @06:13AM (#26805039)
Both are fine from a DPI standpoint, but some people prefer the size of 4k@2x to WQHD at 1x or 2x.
Re:System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment by toastal on Wednesday April 14, 2021 @07:31AM (#26805600)
...And use a panel that covers at least 100% DCI-P3 color gamut.

I bought an Acer at the tail end of last year because I need color accuracy (and couldn't get my hands on high-end HP or Dell or Lenovo in Thailand because markets).

Re:System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment by varispeed on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @04:24PM (#26798739)
I wouldn't say no to that if other specs matched.