Re:New York Times tech workers form a union
by optimalsolver on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @11:09AM
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This isn't 2010. Unless, you're some legendary-tier coder (and I have my doubts these actually exist or are useful in a corporate environment), the company will most likely call your bluff. There are loads of coders willing to take the job.
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Re:New York Times tech workers form a union
by whatbluff on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @11:32AM
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What are you talking about? I'm a totally average programmer, hell, maybe below average for my age and experience level, and I literally walked on a job that wanted to make me do uncompensated on-call at the end of 2019 for one that compensates me to be on call.
It doesn't have to be a bluff, programmers are still in high demand.
And I'm not even in Silicon Valley, and I have no degree. C'mon!
Don't make it a bluff then. Have an offer in hand before bargaining. If the company values you (and not every company treats its programmers like cogs) they will work with you. Otherwise if they refuse you still have a job.
Re:New York Times tech workers form a union
by chimeracoder on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @11:47AM
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> Don't make it a bluff then. Have an offer in hand before bargaining. If the company values you (and not every company treats its programmers like cogs) they will work with you. Otherwise if they refuse you still have a job.
So what you are describing is a situation in which there is zero long-term pressure for the company to improve or change their practices, because there is a never-ending source of people to replace the ones leaving, and as long as they're fine with the churn (spoiler: they are), they'll just chalk it up to the system working as intended.
I am not a fan of people that only apply for a job so they can use it as a bargaining chip at their work. Such a waste of energy for me
Re:New York Times tech workers form a union
by aantix on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @11:39AM
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You don't have to be "legendary" to have that kind of leverage.
If the software has any level of complexity, an org does not want to incur the cost of training a newly hired engineer and waiting 3-6 months while they get up to speed.
Re:New York Times tech workers form a union
by insert_coin on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @11:17AM
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It's a bluff only if you don't mean it. If you are willing to fight for what's fair according to yourself, then it is one of the expected results.
Re:New York Times tech workers form a union
by benmller313 on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @12:14PM
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Are you sure the job market is softer now than in 2010?