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Re:OpenSearch: AWS fork of Elasticsearch and Kibana by busterarm on Monday April 12, 2021 @05:50PM (#26785627)
On the other hand, MongoDB is already sort of obsolete and trending towards death by the time that all ended up happening while ElasticSearch is hot and "new".
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Re:OpenSearch: AWS fork of Elasticsearch and Kibana by rabbidruster on Monday April 12, 2021 @06:41PM (#26786093)
Where do you get the impression MongoDB is trending towards death? Seems to be growing by some metrics; the stock price has more than doubled in the last year. Not a fan myself, but still seems a long way from death to me and seem to be doing something right in enterprise market.
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Re:OpenSearch: AWS fork of Elasticsearch and Kibana by busterarm on Monday April 12, 2021 @07:25PM (#26786406)
There's a difference between trending towards death and dead.

IBM has been trending towards death for decades now and it's nowhere near dead.

MongoDB is certainly on the road to death, IMO. As has Oracle DBMS since the 90s.

Most companies tend to make more money as their product's growth stalls out (extracting more money from existing customers).

The fact that Mongo had to create shitty-license underpins huge revenue problems. If you look at the major trends and surveys, the ones targeted at people who actually drive database adoption within companies, MongoDB is sliding YoY for 3 years now.

The place you see Mongo growing is Atlas. Yes, as their competitors can no longer offer MongoDB in their clouds, revenue shifts to MongoDB. That does not mean that use of the database itself is growing.

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Re:OpenSearch: AWS fork of Elasticsearch and Kibana by redwood on Monday April 12, 2021 @07:31PM (#26786440)
What surveys are you referring to? Got any sources?
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Re:OpenSearch: AWS fork of Elasticsearch and Kibana by busterarm on Monday April 12, 2021 @07:32PM (#26786457)
the yearly Stack Overflow survey, for one.

Find me a bunch of developers and infrastructure people who are EXCITED about running MongoDB. I guarantee you're going to find a 7-10+ year old infrastructure if you do.

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Re:OpenSearch: AWS fork of Elasticsearch and Kibana by redwood on Friday April 16, 2021 @06:03AM (#26831870)
Pretty misleading when it leads the most wanted category in that very survey (maybe you're thinking of what people report already using) https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2020#technology-mo...
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Re:OpenSearch: AWS fork of Elasticsearch and Kibana by rabbidruster on Monday April 12, 2021 @08:22PM (#26786770)
This just isn't true. A large number of companies are building new applications with MongoDB atlas
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Re:OpenSearch: AWS fork of Elasticsearch and Kibana by busterarm on Monday April 12, 2021 @08:57PM (#26787030)
Yes, because Mongo's license prevents them from using alternatives to Atlas (read: other cloud providers). Of course Atlas growth looks good. It's them or self-hosting.

That's not the same as starting a new product on MongoDB.

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Re:OpenSearch: AWS fork of Elasticsearch and Kibana by reducesuffering on Monday April 12, 2021 @07:05PM (#26786266)
MongoDB is not trending towards death and is actually still growing by almost any metric.
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Re:OpenSearch: AWS fork of Elasticsearch and Kibana by codabool on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @02:11AM (#26788632)
https://db-engines.com/en/ranking

I like to check this site every couple months for stats on DB popularity

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Re:OpenSearch: AWS fork of Elasticsearch and Kibana by imhoguy on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @02:37AM (#26788818)
Ugh, no MS Excel /s
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