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Re:How People Get Rich Now by anonu on Monday April 12, 2021 @01:46PM (#26782562)
> but I suspect you are much more likely to build wealth with the more established tech companies

FANG: low variance + moderate reward

vs

ENTREPRENEUR: high variance + high reward

The Kelly Criterion can probably be applied here on how much to "invest" in each opportunity. Ultimately it matters how often these opportunities come up.

Re:How People Get Rich Now by whimsicalism on Monday April 12, 2021 @02:09PM (#26782898)
When you use the phrase "reward", are you talking expected value? Or top of the distribution?

Because if it's expected value, I doubt "entrepreneur" is high reward compared to FANGs "moderate reward".

Re:How People Get Rich Now by anonu on Monday April 12, 2021 @02:19PM (#26783045)
Yes, EV. I certainly think tech entrepreneurs go into a startup opportunity impassioned by their ideas, but knowing they could IPO or exit at some point in the future for a sizeable amount of cash is certainly a motivating factor.

EV = Probability * Outcome

Probability is very low of an IPO outcome - but EV is probably still higher than FANG work.

Re:How People Get Rich Now by cupofcoffee on Monday April 12, 2021 @03:29PM (#26783984)
Your intuition is wrong.

Suppose, 10^-9 odds of a startup making 10 billion. Let's assume the other terms are negligible.

E_startup = ... + 10^-9 * 10^11 = 100$ E_faang = 10^-1 * 10^5 + 10-2 * 10^6 + ... >= 10^4

Re:How People Get Rich Now by anonu on Monday April 12, 2021 @11:36PM (#26787877)
> 10^-9 odds of a startup making 10 billion

Intuitively those numbers feel wrong. theres 7bn people on this planet - and only a very tiny proportion might become tech entrepreneurs. So I think your "1 in a billion" chance of being successful is a bit high. Also, who said $10bn was successful? It is just 1 outcome of many...

Re:How People Get Rich Now by whimsicalism on Monday April 12, 2021 @02:21PM (#26783060)
Yeah, I don't think that is true.
Re:How People Get Rich Now by medvezhenok on Monday April 12, 2021 @03:12PM (#26783761)
Around 1% of seed-funded companies go on to become unicorns (>1B valuation).

Total market value of unicorns ~$2T (~600 unicorns). So average unicorn valuation ~3.3B USD.

Let's say you're the founder and your [ultimately diluted] share of the company is 10%. You have a 10Y runway. Your EV in startup case is 330M (10% of 3.3B) * 1% chance of success = $3.3M or $330K USD per year. This is only counting the extreme (unicorn cases) and will obviously vary with equity percentages.

https://news.crunchbase.com/news/private-unicorn-board-now-a...

Re:How People Get Rich Now by whimsicalism on Monday April 12, 2021 @03:20PM (#26783875)
What percent of entrepreneurs create seed-funded companies?

$3.3m in NW is 100% beatable in FANG.

Re:How People Get Rich Now by medvezhenok on Monday April 12, 2021 @03:32PM (#26784029)
Sure - I agree; that was only the slice of the pie attributable to the extreme success (1%). There's also exits which are non-unicorn but non-trivial which probably bump that number up quite a bit.

It's a tricky problem in the general case because the skills that would allow you to capture a high compensation in FAANG probably correlate with the skills that would lead to a successful startup (not perfectly, but somewhat), so the better your options in FAANG the better your potential outcome via startup (with much higher variance).

Re:How People Get Rich Now by baloney1 on Monday April 12, 2021 @01:55PM (#26782695)
absolutely correct, and let's not forget there is the whole spectrum of startups and mid sized growth companies that one can join in between.