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Re:French lawmakers approve a ban on short domestic flights by dopidopHN on Sunday April 11, 2021 @12:42PM (#26771629)
To be noted : we have a extensive fast train system. As a user, I prefer to take the train. It’s faster, more confortable and overall less hassle. ( you get from city center to city center, no security check; you can move around, use your mobile hotspot or the train wifi )

The one use case is going from Paris to Toulouse for instance. It’s take a day of train. But even Paris-Marseille is less than 3h at this point.

Paris, Lyon, Lille; Marseille, Nantes, Strasbourg; Those are our « top » cities and they are all connected with fast trains.

Re:French lawmakers approve a ban on short domestic flights by thiht on Sunday April 11, 2021 @01:00PM (#26771745)
Rennes-Toulouse is 10 hours by train, because it transits through Paris. It's 2 hours by plane.

If you're in Paris, you can go anywhere easily. If you're not in Paris, some cities are hard to reach by train.

Re:French lawmakers approve a ban on short domestic flights by jcranmer on Sunday April 11, 2021 @01:35PM (#26771987)
Looking at timetables, it's actually 7h30 or 6h30 by train (I'm seeing two different itineraries, and I'm not sure where the hour difference comes from). Even then, the Bordeaux-Toulouse link is not full HSR speed, and adds an extra ~2h of travel time because of it. When LGV Bordeaux-Toulouse is built, that should cut off another 2h to a 4h30 trip.

You might theoretically cut off another 1h if there were a more direct Rennes-Bordeaux line, but most of the delay over the plane isn't caused by the detour to Paris but by the quality of the current rail line to Toulouse.

Re:French lawmakers approve a ban on short domestic flights by Befterriager on Sunday April 11, 2021 @05:48PM (#26773763)
> When LGV Bordeaux-Toulouse is built

For context for US readers, the California High-Speed Rail will probably be completed before the end of the debate on the construction of the LGV Bordeaux-Toulouse.

Re:French lawmakers approve a ban on short domestic flights by thiht on Sunday April 11, 2021 @03:08PM (#26772615)
Maybe it improved since the time I had to do Rennes-Toulouse, which is good (although it should be better). FWIW the SNCF website still says that the average is 10h30, 6h30 being the best.
Re:French lawmakers approve a ban on short domestic flights by raverbashing on Sunday April 11, 2021 @04:28PM (#26773112)
As per TFA (which apparently nobody read)

> to abolish domestic flights on routes than can be covered by train in under two-and-a-half hours

Re:French lawmakers approve a ban on short domestic flights by dopidopHN on Monday April 12, 2021 @07:17AM (#26778119)
Thank you. I’ve been commenting a few time that yes. All train go thought Paris first and it’s fucked up. But also it’s not relevant to this particular conversation
Re:French lawmakers approve a ban on short domestic flights by dopidopHN on Monday April 12, 2021 @07:15AM (#26778099)
I’m acutely aware of that , having grow up in economically devastated country-side where you have to drive 2h to reach the first of those fast train.

It’s infuriating. But oh well, that how the country has been design.

Re:French lawmakers approve a ban on short domestic flights by _Microft on Sunday April 11, 2021 @11:14PM (#26775779)
The SNCF metric has got their name for a reason...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_space#SNCF

Re:French lawmakers approve a ban on short domestic flights by baby on Sunday April 11, 2021 @06:25PM (#26774037)
Add the time it takes to go to the airport, and go through security gates, and all of that and you get more like a 5-6h flight. Also Rennes toulouse 10h by train? I have a hard time believing this.