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Re:Amazon workers vote against unionizing in Alabama by mariksolo on Friday April 09, 2021 @01:31PM (#26753428)
So your issue is specifically with the mindset of the company, not the actions themselves? Why would a company ever do anything out of the goodness of their hearts? Shouldn't we just be looking at the result of them following market incentives?
Re:Amazon workers vote against unionizing in Alabama by praptak on Friday April 09, 2021 @02:03PM (#26753823)
Of course companies don't do anything out of the goodness of their hearts. Companies will do as much evil as they are allowed to and as much good as they are forced to.

The society should act accordingly.

Re:Amazon workers vote against unionizing in Alabama by mariksolo on Friday April 09, 2021 @02:14PM (#26753951)
You're missing my point on purpose.

I am trying to say there is a contradiction in what you are saying. You claim to want companies to move into impoverished areas, but also say doing that is evil. No company has ever moved into an impoverished area to help people, they have always done so out of self interest.

So which do you want, companies to move into impoverished areas (acting evil), or not (acting good, according to you).

Re:Amazon workers vote against unionizing in Alabama by praptak on Friday April 09, 2021 @02:25PM (#26754106)
I want strong labor protection laws everywhere, so that poor regions don't have to compete on allowing companies to exploit the local workforce.
Re:Amazon workers vote against unionizing in Alabama by mariksolo on Friday April 09, 2021 @03:04PM (#26754681)
You've completely changed the direction of the argument.
Re:Amazon workers vote against unionizing in Alabama by awillen on Friday April 09, 2021 @02:56PM (#26754570)
Like a $15 minimum wage? The one Amazon is paying?
Re:Amazon workers vote against unionizing in Alabama by lupire on Friday April 09, 2021 @06:51PM (#26757180)
And paying for time spent in security checkpoints, and not counting "walking from workstation to break room" as break time, and compensation for workplace injuries.
Re:Amazon workers vote against unionizing in Alabama by s1artibartfast on Friday April 09, 2021 @06:50PM (#26757172)
This assumes that everything that is benefits a company is evil and everything that hurts a company is good.

Luckily, this isn't true. There are absolutely areas where companies can do good and profit. Moving good jobs into a blighted area is a classic example of a win-win. The company gets low wages, and residents get some of the best jobs they have access to.

Re:Amazon workers vote against unionizing in Alabama by 6gvONxR4sf7o on Friday April 09, 2021 @02:53PM (#26754529)
So, I think I mostly agree with your stances here, but I take major issue with this:

> Why would a company ever do anything out of the goodness of their hearts?

Because a company is made of people. I won't fault a company for following market incentives, but questions like yours sometimes imply that a company shouldn't do anything out of the goodness of their heart. Then you get people saying stuff like the company's goal must be to maximize shareholder value and stuff, and getting angry when a company does something out of the goodness of their hearts, which I take issue with. <end rant>

Re:Amazon workers vote against unionizing in Alabama by mariksolo on Friday April 09, 2021 @03:02PM (#26754652)
You're right, I could have phrased it better.