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Re:Amazon workers vote against unionizing in Alabama by mjfl on Friday April 09, 2021 @12:39PM (#26752713)
A lot of unions ended up being just another means for the mafia to steal from the poor, skimming off the top of pensions funds and the like. Similar corruption exists today. It is inevitable.
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Re:Amazon workers vote against unionizing in Alabama by lawnchair_larry on Friday April 09, 2021 @01:03PM (#26753034)
I hate how the term privilege is thrown around these days, but man, this bizarre narrative reeks of privilege and some marxist fantasy.

Bezos is in his position because of his competency. He built the thing. Democracy is not a virtue in a workplace.

Re:Amazon workers vote against unionizing in Alabama by koshnaranek on Friday April 09, 2021 @04:32PM (#26755753)
These laws and regulations developed not just randomly but because corporations treated workers almost like slaves.
Re:Amazon workers vote against unionizing in Alabama by spectramax on Friday April 09, 2021 @07:27PM (#26757427)
Slaves? Like employees are forced to work, they have no choice in the matter, they're chained and cannot leave Amazon?

Either you're diluting what Slavery means or proposing the former which is false.

Every single employee at Amazon is free to go work for Walmart, Uber, local lumber yard, grocery stores or whatever.

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Re:Amazon workers vote against unionizing in Alabama by mjfl on Friday April 09, 2021 @01:53PM (#26753708)
The employees of Amazon have never been slaves and the comparison is disingenuous. Saying he was never tested on his competency is ridiculous. There were literally millions of people in the USA richer than Bezos at the time he started Amazon. There are many people on Wall Street who were *orders of magnitude* richer than Bezos that tried to start internet companies that crashed and burned.
Re:Amazon workers vote against unionizing in Alabama by warkdarrior on Friday April 09, 2021 @02:00PM (#26753793)
> [Bezos] was never tested on his competency.

This is extremely naive. There are lots of failed CEOs and failed companies. Amazon survived AND grew over 20 years while actively fighting off competition from Walmart, Google, etc.

Re:Amazon workers vote against unionizing in Alabama by jhbadger on Friday April 09, 2021 @05:59PM (#26756724)
But luck is a major factor in this. If in ten years, Amazon tanks, history will say Bezos was a bad CEO. There is never a real demonstration that skill is involved. Some companies win and some companies lose.
Re:Amazon workers vote against unionizing in Alabama by mjfl on Friday April 09, 2021 @06:42PM (#26757115)
In 10 years it's more likely that the US govt will declare bankruptcy than Amazon.
Re:Amazon workers vote against unionizing in Alabama by musingsole on Friday April 09, 2021 @01:43PM (#26753585)
> but they are democracies

I really don't like democracy mixing with my business. It's the best, terrible system we have for when we have no other choice but to come to a mutual decision. But it really should be your last option.

Re:Amazon workers vote against unionizing in Alabama by claudiawerner on Friday April 09, 2021 @02:22PM (#26754058)
I'm not sure why it should be my last option. There are several problems with autocratic leadership, one of which is that many times, the whims of the autocrat are fundamentally at odds with the good of the people he manages.
Re:Amazon workers vote against unionizing in Alabama by musingsole on Friday April 09, 2021 @04:19PM (#26755576)
Many times, maybe, but I suppose I'm arguing it's a corner case.

Perhaps that those power structures are so natural to us implies just how successful they've been in our history. And not in the sense that fear is a good motivator, but because the reality is that most principals aren't all that far removed from their agents.

Re:Amazon workers vote against unionizing in Alabama by objclxt on Friday April 09, 2021 @01:09PM (#26753124)
> Similar corruption exists today. It is inevitable.

OK, so if it's inevitably why hasn't this happened to the creative unions in Hollywood like SAG, WGA, the DGA, and the PGA?

Re:Amazon workers vote against unionizing in Alabama by musingsole on Friday April 09, 2021 @01:41PM (#26753573)
Are...are you holding up Hollywood as an example of pure, legal employee protections? You know, the industry largely stood up by largescale money laundering schemes?