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Re:Figma and Canva are taking on Adobe and winning by maxerickson on Friday April 09, 2021 @11:16AM (#26751582)
I was pretty specific about what I said. In the US it's $15 dollars a week for the software and $1000+ a week for the user. It's not a big cost if the software provides that individual with much value.

Sure, they are clearly ceding a chunk of the market to other companies. I don't think it's obvious that this is a bad business decision...

Re:Figma and Canva are taking on Adobe and winning by TrevorJ on Friday April 09, 2021 @11:41AM (#26751969)
Relative to buying software outright, yes, it's a big cost. Any it's also annoying. You don't own the software, which ends up effecting you negatively in a myriad of small ways.
Re:Figma and Canva are taking on Adobe and winning by dylan604 on Friday April 09, 2021 @12:43PM (#26752769)
This argument is always brought out like a standard bearer. Adobe software was NEVER a buy it once, own it for life. Sure, that particular version, maybe. But nobody stays on that version forever. Pre-subscription days to CS bundles, the bundles were $1200-$1500USD. They would release a new version of software each year, and they would charge $600USD for the upgrade. So, your $1200 in, plus an annual $600 in upgrades. Pre CS bundles, it was $800 for Photoshop alone. Premiere was even more.
Re:Figma and Canva are taking on Adobe and winning by wdb on Friday April 09, 2021 @01:03PM (#26753027)
Yes, but you could skip a version easily in the old days!
Re:Figma and Canva are taking on Adobe and winning by dylan604 on Friday April 09, 2021 @01:29PM (#26753403)
If you worked alone that might have worked. Sending/receiving files from someone with newer versions caused problems. I suffered through this once when doing 32page magazine layouts, and I was a version behind the printer. That experience alone convinced me to upgrade.
Re:Figma and Canva are taking on Adobe and winning by mattkevan on Friday April 09, 2021 @04:39PM (#26755835)
In my experience the printer was always a good few releases behind the current version. No-one wanted to upgrade unless they absolutely had to. The switch to InDesign from Quark was particularly drawn-out, and even then no one took Quark 5 files.

It’s very different now it’s all done by PDF - as long as it’s formatted correctly it doesn’t matter what program created it or how old it was.

Re:Figma and Canva are taking on Adobe and winning by wdb on Friday April 09, 2021 @02:22PM (#26754061)
I always just send a PDF or IDML file to the printer. So far that worked out well
Re:Figma and Canva are taking on Adobe and winning by Nkuna on Friday April 09, 2021 @02:38PM (#26754303)
You'd send InDesign files to the printer? Why when there are various export formats printers accept..?
Re:Figma and Canva are taking on Adobe and winning by dylan604 on Friday April 09, 2021 @03:11PM (#26754780)
Going further back to Aldus Pagemaker. Plus, I come from a time of Quark and SyQuest drives to move data around. Things were different in the stone ages. PDFs were not a thing people used.
Re:Figma and Canva are taking on Adobe and winning by mortenjorck on Friday April 09, 2021 @09:13PM (#26758061)
When I worked in print design, we’d typically send two things to the printer: a zip of the Quark or InDesign “collect for output,” and a PDF for reference.

Later, though, I seem to recall some printers accepting PDF/x-1a files – I don’t know if the industry has transitioned to that now, or if some still prefer a collect for output.

Re:Figma and Canva are taking on Adobe and winning by OscarTheGrinch on Friday April 09, 2021 @11:48AM (#26752076)
Yes, not to mention the inevitable downtime when some cloud service can't authenticate. Not an improvement on working with local software.
Re:Figma and Canva are taking on Adobe and winning by sgerenser on Saturday April 10, 2021 @12:32AM (#26758944)
I think Adobe at least gives you a 30 day grace period of no internet access.