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Re:Figma and Canva are taking on Adobe and winning by wongarsu on Friday April 09, 2021 @11:13AM (#26751539)
It's a lot for teenagers and students. People prefer to use software they know, and if you keep your creative software from people in their formative years then you are going to struggle.

This might be less of a problem if they hadn't also slashed education discounts (pupils and students used to get 80-90% discount, presumably to discourage buying used or pirating)

Re:Figma and Canva are taking on Adobe and winning by kitsunesoba on Friday April 09, 2021 @06:19PM (#26756911)
Also, as an individual having your work locked behind a subscription fee is more than a little scary. For a company it's no big deal to have subscription autorenew in perpetuity, but individuals sometimes need to cut costs, and because of that subscription fees start to look like a ball and chain.
Re:Figma and Canva are taking on Adobe and winning by dna_polymerase on Friday April 09, 2021 @12:02PM (#26752267)
Exactly. The SaaS model largely lacks a gameplan for long term sustainability.
Re:Figma and Canva are taking on Adobe and winning by vlovich123 on Friday April 09, 2021 @01:28PM (#26753390)
How so? The SaaS model lets you price segment more flexibly. You can do a free (or very cheap) loss leader version that has a more limited feature-set (that students & hobbyists don't need) and a non-commercial license. Charge more for larger shops that need collaborative/more professional features.

Just because Adobe is doing the transition poorly (albeit you wouldn't know from their share price), I don't necessarily buy that it's a fundamental flaw in the SaaS business model. Indeed Figma & Canva are both SaaS companies themselves. As MSFT has shown, it doesn't take much for a giant to come back. I don't think Adobe is particularly cash-strapped so they can weather out a bunch of mistakes/internal realignment.

Re:Figma and Canva are taking on Adobe and winning by maxerickson on Friday April 09, 2021 @01:31PM (#26753437)
Their financials have done great since they switched. Strong growth in revenue, gross profit and net income.
Re:Figma and Canva are taking on Adobe and winning by vendiddy on Friday April 09, 2021 @03:00PM (#26754625)
This may be short-term growth at the expense of long-term sustainability.

The younger generation will reach for the more affordable options like Figma, Sketch, Canva. Everyone will know how to use these tools a lot better so this these will become the new standards in the workplace.

Re:Figma and Canva are taking on Adobe and winning by vlovich123 on Friday April 09, 2021 @03:43PM (#26755156)
Right. I was explicitly responding to OPs claim that SaaS lacks long term sustainability because Adobe's approach seems like it could kill their long-term userbase.
Re:Figma and Canva are taking on Adobe and winning by 908B64B197 on Saturday April 10, 2021 @03:16PM (#26764197)
Going against the .edu discounts is... strange?

That's how you build your userbase 5-10 years into the future. That should be a no-brainer.

What's harder to price in a discount with SaaS is how to deal with smaller companies. Startups with almost no money but that could grow into lucrative customers down the line.

Re:Figma and Canva are taking on Adobe and winning by fakedang on Friday April 09, 2021 @07:50PM (#26757562)
It's also a lot for designers and video makers in the developing world, most of whom are being sought as freelancers for small Western companies.