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Re:How Western Civilisation Could Collapse by nimbius on Thursday April 08, 2021 @10:41AM (#26739299)
>Randers argues. “Democratic, liberal society will fail, while stronger governments like China will be the winners.”

Ah yes, the appeal to the mythical, objective "strength."

Using the same general argument, I can presume America and the west are also entitled to broad systemic reforms similar to those enacted in China? or is this a more Wolfgang Streeck argument where the intractable corpse of capital works to merely stymy all actors.

Re:How Western Civilisation Could Collapse by jokethrowaway on Thursday April 08, 2021 @10:57AM (#26739556)
China has solid economic foundations and is on track to be the next superpower. I think it's appropriate to call it a strong government.

Despite being an evil and dangerous communist dictatorship, they employed capitalism (state capitalism in particular) to become leaders while the western world destroyed their business sector, wasted money and economic potential directing money to bureaucrats and the richest 1%.

I'm honestly unsure on where to move next (ideas appreciated) before this mess unravels more.

Re:How Western Civilisation Could Collapse by TheAdamAndChe on Thursday April 08, 2021 @11:13AM (#26739818)
Of relevance is this video[1] discussing a demographic crisis in China caused from their one-child policy that will lead to significant economic issues in the coming decades, much like how Japan is having issues. There's a good chance this will limit their growth.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTbILK0fxDY

Re:How Western Civilisation Could Collapse by sitkack on Thursday April 08, 2021 @11:32AM (#26740074)
I think the West could have an approach to white collar crime that is more inline with China.
Re:How Western Civilisation Could Collapse by simmerup on Thursday April 08, 2021 @11:39AM (#26740141)
And that would be let everyone make as much money off corruption as they can, except when they challenge the CCP: then string them up as examples.
Re:How Western Civilisation Could Collapse by nmfisher on Thursday April 08, 2021 @12:03PM (#26740434)
I’m guessing you’ve never lived in China.

Fraud/embezzlement is a much, much bigger problem than in the West.