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Re:Facebook does not plan to notify half-billion users affec... by wunderflix on Thursday April 08, 2021 @08:13AM (#26737767)
Could someone elaborate on what the worst-case exploit would be for those number that got leaked? How would a scenario look like? Asking for a friend whose number got exposed...
Re:Facebook does not plan to notify half-billion users affec... by mcintyre1994 on Thursday April 08, 2021 @08:26AM (#26737850)
It's still going to be a scam message, but they can use your Facebook ID to see everything public on your profile now, as well as the other fields in the leak like full name, location, bio, birthday. So whatever the most convincing scam message somebody can come up with is combining all of that data. Off the top of my head, "happy birthday here's a gift from us" messages from companies leading to phishing pages and personalised fake register to vote pages relating to upcoming elections in your area.

It's not really new data, it's just scam SMS I've received in the past has never shown any sign of knowing anything other than my phone number. Now you can buy phone numbers and pull personalisation data unrestricted from your copy of Facebook's database for each of them. I'm sure sophisticated scammers already were, but now everyone will.

Re:Facebook does not plan to notify half-billion users affec... by muzani on Thursday April 08, 2021 @08:34AM (#26737925)
Birthday is a form of identity verification too, for password reset.
Re:Facebook does not plan to notify half-billion users affec... by prox on Thursday April 08, 2021 @11:54AM (#26740310)
None of the birthdays I enter are real. :P
Re:Facebook does not plan to notify half-billion users affec... by cute_boi on Thursday April 08, 2021 @12:25PM (#26740712)
and no one should put real birthday lol. Birthday is mostly used for targeting ads.

This is why facebook can say to advertisers, "We mostly have young people using our service. So please put your money on our company"

And yes using account of 60-70 year old always receives less ads :D

Re:Facebook does not plan to notify half-billion users affec... by muzani on Thursday April 08, 2021 @08:50PM (#26745598)
They have to be consistent, yes? If I enter 6/7/1989 everywhere they just have to get it once.
Re:Facebook does not plan to notify half-billion users affec... by prox on Friday April 09, 2021 @08:44AM (#26749812)
I use different ones for each account and write them down like passwords if it somehow ends up being a hint for password recovery etc.
Re:Facebook does not plan to notify half-billion users affec... by rocqua on Thursday April 08, 2021 @08:48AM (#26738048)
My university is known to offer the option payment of tuition through a popular online system. This option is done by sending each student, at the start of the year, an SMS with a link to a payment option.

Suppose you can get a list of people studying there, their names, and their phone-numbers. Faking this SMS and putting a payment that goes to you instead of uni would be a nice way to earn about 2000 euros per student who falls for it.

Re:Facebook does not plan to notify half-billion users affec... by SketchySeaBeast on Thursday April 08, 2021 @09:17AM (#26738310)
> My university is known to offer the option payment of tuition through a popular online system. This option is done by sending each student, at the start of the year, an SMS with a link to a payment option.

They don't email this information? They don't put it on an online notification system? I have no idea why SMS seems like the logical option for this.

Re:Facebook does not plan to notify half-billion users affec... by haswell on Thursday April 08, 2021 @09:55AM (#26738698)
Kids are more likely to text, less likely to email these days. I can understand why they’d use SMS for their target demographic.

That doesn’t justify the security implications of doing this...

Re:Facebook does not plan to notify half-billion users affec... by SketchySeaBeast on Thursday April 08, 2021 @10:04AM (#26738785)
Do kids still text or is that a generation or two removed from the current iMessages/WhatsApp/Signal/WhateverComesAfterSignalBecauseImOldAndDontKnow?
Re:Facebook does not plan to notify half-billion users affec... by haswell on Thursday April 08, 2021 @10:31AM (#26739159)
I'm sure they'd prefer to receive notifications from their university on WhateverComesAfterSignalBecauseImOldAndDontKnow, but I imagine that SMS is the 2nd best thing (and probably still generates eye-rolling about the university being old fashioned).
Re:Facebook does not plan to notify half-billion users affec... by SketchySeaBeast on Thursday April 08, 2021 @11:09AM (#26739768)
But then you're stuck logging into the payment portal and filling out the form information with your phone, which is my own personal hell.
Re:Facebook does not plan to notify half-billion users affec... by haswell on Thursday April 08, 2021 @03:45PM (#26742899)
Oh, I'm with you. I'd much prefer to pull this up on a real computer so I can efficiently fill things in. I've adapted to typing on glass with my thumbs, but I'm not very good at it.
Re:Facebook does not plan to notify half-billion users affec... by rocqua on Thursday April 08, 2021 @10:51AM (#26739448)
I do not know why they do this. I really wish they would stop.

I have considered faking the SMS message, with the payment link saying "imagine this wasn't a warning message but an actual payment request, please tell the university this is unsafe". But sending that kind of mass SMS is not easy, nor is finding the correct phone numbers.

Re:Facebook does not plan to notify half-billion users affec... by dotancohen on Thursday April 08, 2021 @10:54AM (#26739483)
The email option is arguably an easier (cheaper) attack vector than the SMS messages would be.
Re:Facebook does not plan to notify half-billion users affec... by SketchySeaBeast on Thursday April 08, 2021 @11:09AM (#26739753)
Yeah, I thought of that after I wrote it. Send it to all the university accounts you can get your hand on, see who you catch. It's probably just personal preference showing through as well, as I wouldn't be comfortable paying with my phone. I also have no idea how people substitute their PC with an iPad or phone. Much harder to fill out a page of fields and navigate around, and I'm sure that Google Pay won't support $15,000 payments.
Re:Facebook does not plan to notify half-billion users affec... by vimax on Thursday April 08, 2021 @08:31AM (#26737902)
If your phone is your 2fa, someone uses this data to target you for a sim-swap to take over your phone, and then uses it to take over high value accounts.
Re:Facebook does not plan to notify half-billion users affec... by ThalesX on Thursday April 08, 2021 @08:23AM (#26737824)
What some spammers do in my country for example, is call old people and pretend their (grand/)children were involved in an accident and ask for money for quick interventions (the hospital is out of funds, bla bla). It's sometimes hit or miss cause the person might be next to them, or they just talked, or sometimes they can't figure out if you have a daughter or a son etc.

With a correlated leak like this, it's super easy for me to find your profile, see who you are, what you look like, even from just your profile picture I could potentially see you have a daughter yourself, so I can target your mother that something happened to her granddaughter and you, which would make her pay up even faster possibly.