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Re:Screw it, I’ll host it myself by belval on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @12:09PM (#26726944)
I think the diagram gives a skewed view of how hard this actually is.

I run a very similar setup only my VPS is only a proxy for my home server and it requires very little maintenance. I run everything with docker-compose and I haven't had to work on my setup at all this year and only about 8 hours in 2020 to setup the Wireguard network to replace the ssh tunnels I was using previously for VPS -> server communications.

At the end of the day YMMV and use what you are comfortable with, but it's not as crazy undertaking as it sounds.

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Re:Screw it, I’ll host it myself by divbzero on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @12:58PM (#26727606)
Yes, and many popular applications are prepackaged as one-click apps by cloud providers like Vultr [1] or Digital Ocean [2].

[1]: https://www.vultr.com/features/one-click-apps/

[2]: https://marketplace.digitalocean.com

You can also enable automatic backups for your servers.

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Re:Screw it, I’ll host it myself by Semaphor on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @01:54PM (#26728392)
Somewhat OT, but never realized how expensive those cloud instances are. For comparison, I pay $4.95/month (billed annually) for a KVM VPS with 2 Ghz, 2 GB RAM, 40gb SSD, 400 GB HDD in the Netherlands. That seems a lot better for selfhosting where you probably want more raw storage than more SSD space.
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Re:Screw it, I’ll host it myself by jjeaff on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @04:54PM (#26731114)
If that is enough to handle everything you need, then that is definitely a better deal. The electric bill for a similar home server running 24x7 would be more than $6/mo.
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Re:Screw it, I’ll host it myself by rkachowski on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @02:10PM (#26728636)
That's pretty awesome, what provider are you with?
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Re:Screw it, I’ll host it myself by Semaphor on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @02:23PM (#26728842)
https://www.prometeus.net/site/terakvm.php

But it looks like I got it on a sale, TERAKVM-400 comes down to $6.94 at normal prices.

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Re:Screw it, I’ll host it myself by christophilus on Thursday April 08, 2021 @08:08AM (#26737727)
Not the OP, but I’ve been using Netcup for video transcoding. It was the best bang for the buck out of a large number of providers I tried.
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Re:Screw it, I’ll host it myself by IggleSniggle on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @06:10PM (#26732079)
I went down an almost identical path/plan, but then stopped due to corruption concerns with doing the VPS / home sync the way that I wanted without a NAS in the middle managing the thing. It’s still possible, but it explodes the complexity.

One of the big things I wanted to accomplish was low cost and easy to integrate / recover from for family in case of bus-factor.

I didn’t expect to compete with the major cloud providers on cost, but the architecture I was dreaming of just wasn’t quite feasible even though it’s tantalizingly close...basically, all the benefits of a p2p internal network with all the convenience of NextCloud and all the export-ability of “just copy all these files to a new disk or cloud provider.”

It’s so close, there’s just always some bottleneck: home upload is too slow, cold cloud storage too hard to integrate with / cache, architecture requires too much maintenance, or similar.

I think NextCloud is very close for personal use, if only there was a plug and play p2p backend datastore / cache backed by plug and play immutable cold storage that could pick up new entries from the p2p layer.

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Re:Screw it, I’ll host it myself by random_kris on Thursday April 08, 2021 @10:59AM (#26739598)
There is a cryptocurrency called siacoin. It offers cloud storage and there exist a nextcloud plugin for it to integrate it as a storage backend. I have some plans on trying this setup. What do you think?

https://nextcloud.com/blog/introducing-cloud-storage-in-the-...

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Re:Screw it, I’ll host it myself by IggleSniggle on Friday April 09, 2021 @09:39PM (#26758190)
Huh. I'd be interested in hearing your experience with it
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Re:Screw it, I’ll host it myself by mjparrott on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @01:22PM (#26727909)
The technical language in this makes me ditto the first comment that this is too much for many people out there like myself
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Re:Screw it, I’ll host it myself by belval on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @02:52PM (#26729267)
You are absolutely right, if you are not familiar with docker-compose, ssh tunnels, wireguard, etc... it will take more time to setup, that being said as far as maintenance go you will probably have a similar experience.

Most of my setup was done through SSH during boring classes in college so I had plenty of time to read documentation and figure out new tools.

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