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Re:Left-wing party opposed to rare earth mining project wins... by bryanlarsen on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @08:53AM (#26724125)
Rare earths are not used in the popular lithium battery chemistries.

They are needed for high performance electric motors though.

Re:Left-wing party opposed to rare earth mining project wins... by eloff on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @09:25AM (#26724551)
And in wind turbines (for the same reason). What about solar panels? Maybe not the cheaper ones?
Re:Left-wing party opposed to rare earth mining project wins... by pjc50 on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @09:52AM (#26724942)
Conventional monocrystalline or polycrystalline panels do not use rare elements. Slightly fuzzy diagram: https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Structure-of-monocrystal...

Cadmium-telluride and CIGS cells use more rare elements, but they have been overtaken by the ongoing fall in cost of conventional silicon wafer cells, so you won't see too many of them being installed at the moment.

(The failure of CdTe is probably for the best given how spectacularly poisonous both of those metals are)

Re:Left-wing party opposed to rare earth mining project wins... by pjc50 on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @09:46AM (#26724845)
There's a question over cobalt, although that's not usually counted as "rare".
Re:Left-wing party opposed to rare earth mining project wins... by _Microft on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @10:06AM (#26725156)
"Rare-earth elements" is a name for a set of particular elements. Cobalt is not among them.

Despite their name rare-earth elements are not that rare either. They occur in rather low concentrations though and never pure either (i.e. always as compounds) which makes mining and processing them complex.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rare-earth_element

Re:Left-wing party opposed to rare earth mining project wins... by baybal2 on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @12:08PM (#26726934)
Cobalt is also not that rare just as Nickel is.

It's just the price is set by people who can mine it for nearly free from the most rich deposits in the world.

Re:Left-wing party opposed to rare earth mining project wins... by moistbar on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @09:57AM (#26725026)
Low-cobalt batteries are also becoming increasingly common.
Re:Left-wing party opposed to rare earth mining project wins... by barney54 on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @11:32AM (#26726370)
True, but the quantity of batteries they are used in is rapidly increasing leading to more demand overall.
Re:Left-wing party opposed to rare earth mining project wins... by dbuder on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @09:48AM (#26724875)
Yes they are. There are trace amounts and they are used in the production of lithium batteries. They are also used in semiconductors and the production of them.
Re:Left-wing party opposed to rare earth mining project wins... by bryanlarsen on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @11:07AM (#26726012)
Which earths in which chemistries? Or are you saying they're used during production, but but don't end up in the batteries?