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Re:7% of Americans don’t use the internet. Who are they? by watwut on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @02:25AM (#26721140)
> There is a story (probably made up - please fill in correct details) that a group "conquered" one of the islands (maybe Saba?). They took over whatever building, raised whatever flag. And everyone just ignored them. They eventually left.

I would guess it made up, because when people conquer stuff, they tend to have actual material goals and need. Starting from basic - their army needs to eat. The way you get that food is to take it from people who are there. They need wood and what not, if you are the armed one, you force local population to get it for you. When people used to run from incoming armies, it was not for fun. It was because the armed men tend not to ignore you.

The miracle there is not island people ignoring incoming people. The miracle there is the supposed conquerors being content with raising flag, without trying to take actual benefit from it. I guess in some rare situations they would conquer thing for trolling/emotional purposes, but generally the goal is control and things.

Re:7% of Americans don’t use the internet. Who are they? by varjag on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @03:14AM (#26721370)
Do you really think all wars are rational, resource-driven pursuits? How about Falklands, what Argentina planned to extract there? Steal the rocks and tax the 300 sheep? Or Russia with Crimea, whose ownership value is enormously negative?

All it takes is one moron with delusion of grandeur.

Re:7% of Americans don’t use the internet. Who are they? by ClumsyPilot on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @06:55AM (#26723060)
Indeed, countless wars were started for the most idiotic reasons imaginable, see 'war of the bycket'

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Bucket

Re:7% of Americans don’t use the internet. Who are they? by appletrotter on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @09:37AM (#26724726)
Did you read what you linked to? It says that the war wasn't actually started to due to the bucket, but the taking of a castle.

Pretty reasonable cause to start a war I could imagine, back then.

Re:7% of Americans don’t use the internet. Who are they? by watwut on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @03:59AM (#26721679)
Wars are expensive, that is first thing. Second, soldiers need to eat right now and where do you think food used to come from? Army "living off the land" was a thing, because supplying them was difficult and who cares. The land armies passed through used to be pretty destroyed after.

> Russia with Crimea, whose ownership value is enormously negative?

Russia does not see expansion of own territory as negative value. Also, Russians are very much making changes in Crimea.

Re:7% of Americans don’t use the internet. Who are they? by varjag on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @09:34AM (#26724668)
Unlike 'seeing', negative economic value is objective. Suffering sanctions for occupying a region that was traditionally heavily subsidised is negative value.
Re:7% of Americans don’t use the internet. Who are they? by Mauricebranagh on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @05:38AM (#26722397)
1 To distract the population by stirring up nationalism / appealing to "machismo" 2 OIL