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Re:Clubhouse Payments by echelon on Monday April 05, 2021 @06:40PM (#26705565)
How do apps like this survive and grow?

Giants can clone the entire product with a small team.

I'm worried about this exact problem.

Edit: First thought that comes to mind is filing a few patents and then throwing 50% of funding into a lawsuit against the first giant to clone you.

This is traditionally not the way, but with the incumbents so nimble and readily able to pick off good ideas, it seems like it might be the only defense.

Re:Clubhouse Payments by mylons on Monday April 05, 2021 @06:45PM (#26705616)
Giants will clone and make a piece of shit. Apps like this survive by creating a network of people. They do that by creating demand to join the service. How do you do that? Make it invite only, and invite a ton of high profile people and get them using and talking about it, creating FOMO.

The only people who threaten this are Facebook and Twitter. Twitter _actually_ could clone it or buy a competitor. But, look at Twitter’s history of that. They literally KILLED a TikTok by buying it and shutting it down. They are in the process of killing a live video competitor to twitch and youtube called periscope.

Don’t be afraid of The Big Bois.

Re:Clubhouse Payments by echelon on Monday April 05, 2021 @06:52PM (#26705684)
> Giants will clone and make a piece of shit.

Facebook does a damn good job of sinking ships.

The only two survivors I can think of are TikTok and Snapchat. And Snapchat pivoted.

Re:Clubhouse Payments by iforgetti on Monday April 05, 2021 @07:51PM (#26706205)
Serious question, what did snap chat pivot to?
Re:Clubhouse Payments by antoniuschan99 on Monday April 05, 2021 @10:06PM (#26707202)
I would like to know too. Snapchat was ephermerial messages, stories, and filters? Tik tok is reels?
Re:Clubhouse Payments by shaklee3 on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @01:01AM (#26708086)
They made glasses with a camera in them
Re:Clubhouse Payments by busymom0 on Monday April 05, 2021 @10:28PM (#26707343)
What did Snapchat pivot to? The only pivot I know they did was changing from disappearing messages to stories (not sure if the disappearing messages are still there?). But this wasn't exactly a pivot as far as I know because of FB copying the stories feature afterwards.
Re:Clubhouse Payments by mylons on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @11:07AM (#26712699)
my intuition on FB agrees with you but I can’t think of something like clubhouse that they didn’t buy or attempt to? any particular ships you’re referring to?

the ones you’re referring to were social photo/video plays which FB was perfectly setup to enter. FB doesn’t have an audio product as far as i know.

Re:Clubhouse Payments by picodguyo on Monday April 05, 2021 @07:46PM (#26706166)
What would they patent exactly? Group voice chat? I imagine someone patented that decades ago and if anything, Clubhouse will be licensing or fighting patent trolls soon if they aren't already.
Re:Clubhouse Payments by azinman2 on Monday April 05, 2021 @09:48PM (#26707094)
The way they do moderated group chat. It isn't just a giant chat room.
Re:Clubhouse Payments by herendin2 on Monday April 05, 2021 @08:21PM (#26706467)
>Giants can clone the entire product with a small team

Giants are more likely to buy the entire project with a small amount of shares

Neither option is likely to turn out well, but at least the founders could be rewarded

Re:Clubhouse Payments by artur_makly on Monday April 05, 2021 @06:46PM (#26705627)
Their IP is the high caliber of people/creators/cult/tribes that has amassed and been refined. But clearly not their UX...yet.