BBC: The cost of speaking up against China (Uyghurs)

Re:BBC: The cost of speaking up against China (Uyghurs) by dang on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @04:00PM (#26652330)

You've seriously broken the HN guidelines. Please read the rules and stick to them: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

If you'd like more explanation, there is plenty at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26652363 and the links back from there.

Edit: we had to warn you about this before (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26549570). Continuing to break the rules like this will get your account banned. (Btw, if you or anyone think I might be posting this because I'm secretly a communist, foreign agent, or $x-sympathizer, please see step 4 of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26637365.)

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Re:BBC: The cost of speaking up against China (Uyghurs) by DreamScatter on Saturday April 03, 2021 @12:24AM (#26678431)

So, you're also a chinese shill?

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Re:BBC: The cost of speaking up against China (Uyghurs) by dang on Saturday April 03, 2021 @01:48PM (#26683048)

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...

Edit: you've unfortunately been breaking the site guidelines repeatedly and badly—badly enough to ban your account. I'm not going to ban your account for this comment, but please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and fix this going forward.

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Re:BBC: The cost of speaking up against China (Uyghurs) by powerapple on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @02:01AM (#26643985)

This is not the right attitude. People should be allowed to participate, and they can downvote whenever they see fit.

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Re:BBC: The cost of speaking up against China (Uyghurs) by me_me_me on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @05:16AM (#26645070)

That's not participation, that's violating community protocols. Downvote is not used to show that you disagree but that the reply is low effort, inflammatory etc.

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Re:BBC: The cost of speaking up against China (Uyghurs) by yorwba on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @05:36AM (#26645200)

Flagging is for guideline-breaking content and a sufficient number of flags suppresses visibility except for people who have showdead on.

Whereas upvotes and downvotes control the sort order without silencing anyone, reflecting (albeit noisily) the overall community sentiment. Voting based on agreement is a perfectly valid way to use HN, and it seems to be what the majority is doing. (At least judging from the votes on my own comments, where I can see the count.)

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Re:BBC: The cost of speaking up against China (Uyghurs) by mam2 on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @01:50AM (#26643948)

How do you see that

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Re:BBC: The cost of speaking up against China (Uyghurs) by __turbobrew__ on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @11:10PM (#26643108)

*5 fen army

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Re:BBC: The cost of speaking up against China (Uyghurs) by AussieWog93 on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @11:15PM (#26643136)

(To be pedantic, it's actually 5 jiao/mao (hence the phrase "wumao") - 50 fen in total.)

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Re:BBC: The cost of speaking up against China (Uyghurs) by __turbobrew__ on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @11:23PM (#26643183)

A cent is 1/100th of a dollar and a fen is 1/100th of a yuan?

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Re:BBC: The cost of speaking up against China (Uyghurs) by AussieWog93 on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @11:45PM (#26643299)

Yep, and one mao is 10 fen. So 5 mao (wumao) is 50 fen.

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Re:BBC: The cost of speaking up against China (Uyghurs) by guram11 on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @11:03PM (#26643077)

first time on HN? lol

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Re:BBC: The cost of speaking up against China (Uyghurs) by tammerk on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @11:18PM (#26643155)

> Five cent army, assemble!

Quick link : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party

They also flag posts to take down from the first page. Just look how many votes do this post have but barely on the first page, about to fall down.

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Re:BBC: The cost of speaking up against China (Uyghurs) by dang on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @03:56PM (#26652270)

You've seriously broken the HN guidelines. Please read the rules and stick to them: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

If you'd like more explanation, there is plenty at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26652363 and the links back from there.

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Re:BBC: The cost of speaking up against China (Uyghurs) by meibo on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @11:25PM (#26643188)

It's a shame, I feel like it's our duty to boost these things - it's the least we can do.

Maybe the HN team could manually do "flag locks" for certain articles that are being brigaded?

Reddit has a "controversial" indicator on posts and comments that can help users identify that this is happening(heavily downvoted, but also heavily upvoted and interacted with).

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Re:BBC: The cost of speaking up against China (Uyghurs) by unityByFreedom on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @02:36AM (#26644158)

If there were a way to transparently share coordinated activity I'd be supportive. But, I've never seen the evidence shared and I trust the reason is because sharing such evidence would lead the actors to change their methods. The best we can do as users is discuss the possibility it may be occurring.

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Re:BBC: The cost of speaking up against China (Uyghurs) by tammerk on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @11:49PM (#26643326)

This is way beyond being "controversial". First thing probably, HN team can investigate all China related posts and gather users who flagged these posts and take action accordingly.

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Re:BBC: The cost of speaking up against China (Uyghurs) by wait_a_minute on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @01:13AM (#26643762)

What if some of those people are on the HN team?

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Re:BBC: The cost of speaking up against China (Uyghurs) by dang on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @03:56PM (#26652281)

You may be at step 4 of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26637365.

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Re:BBC: The cost of speaking up against China (Uyghurs) by pas on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @05:26AM (#26645137)

Eventually HN would lose (some of) its appeal. And if it would bug enough people a new forum would see a huge influx of people.

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Re:BBC: The cost of speaking up against China (Uyghurs) by tammerk on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @01:45AM (#26643915)

We'll see if they are going to prevent this.

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Re:BBC: The cost of speaking up against China (Uyghurs) by boomboomsubban on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @11:38PM (#26643258)

If this is being flagged, it's likely because it's against the submission guidelines. It's hard to see how this gratifies intellectual curiosity, and it's a political topic without an interesting new phenomenon.

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Re:BBC: The cost of speaking up against China (Uyghurs) by stadium on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @11:43PM (#26643283)

Mass incarceration in concentration camps is not a political issue, it's a human rights issue.

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Re:BBC: The cost of speaking up against China (Uyghurs) by boomboomsubban on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @11:52PM (#26643335)

I don't recall ever flagging a submission, if I have it's infrequent.

That personal attack aside, political submissions don't have a blanket ban, but it's reasonable to see why this one would get flagged without blaming paid state actors.

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Re:BBC: The cost of speaking up against China (Uyghurs) by caminocorner on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @11:36PM (#26643245)

The same thing happened on the other relevant post about an hour ago. Here was my recent comment on that one: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26642757

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Re:BBC: The cost of speaking up against China (Uyghurs) by brundolf on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @12:05AM (#26643402)

@dang, might some intervention be in order?

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Re:BBC: The cost of speaking up against China (Uyghurs) by chillee on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @01:40AM (#26643883)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26643703

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Re:BBC: The cost of speaking up against China (Uyghurs) by MichaelMoser123 on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @09:47AM (#26647230)

you need some amount of points in order to downvote something on this site; only someone who has a stake in this community can yield his influence in order to downvote something here; this means that a lot of people here are subjects to the whims of the CPC.

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