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Re:Google collects 20 times more telemetry from Android devi... by esclerofilo on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @06:51PM (#26641516)
Fragmentation and walled gardens are a false dichotomy. Steam is actually a great example of this, there are many other stores (Humble Bundle, Fanatical, GMG, whatever) that sell you Steam keys so you can keep your game library in one comfortable place.
Re:Google collects 20 times more telemetry from Android devi... by simonh on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @06:57PM (#26641553)
Yes Steam are still perfectly comfortable staying at 30% as I said it's clearly a market driven level.
Re:Google collects 20 times more telemetry from Android devi... by throwaway2048 on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @07:33PM (#26641861)
Steam keys sold off steam do not give valve a cut.
Re:Google collects 20 times more telemetry from Android devi... by 2muchcoffeeman on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @10:15PM (#26642815)
I wonder what a user is worth to Steam?

They didn’t have to acquire the user themselves and now they have more eyeballs on their service. How many of these users buy a few things later and make waiving the fee worth it?

Steams not doing this out of the goodness of their hearts.

Re:Google collects 20 times more telemetry from Android devi... by throwaway2048 on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @10:17PM (#26642834)
nobody claimed otherwise, only that its trivial to sidestep the 30% fee, even if you wish to remain distributed by steam.
Re:Google collects 20 times more telemetry from Android devi... by simonh on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @03:03AM (#26644295)
Right, they believe their store value is enough for them to compete with 0%.
Re:Google collects 20 times more telemetry from Android devi... by jsjohnst on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @09:57PM (#26642737)
Valve is definitely getting some kind of money out of the deal.
Re:Google collects 20 times more telemetry from Android devi... by throwaway2048 on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @10:05PM (#26642763)
They are not

"Steam keys are meant to be a convenient tool for game developers to sell their game on other stores and at retail. Steam keys are free and can be activated by customers on Steam to grant a license to a product."

https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/features/keys

Re:Google collects 20 times more telemetry from Android devi... by jsjohnst on Monday April 05, 2021 @09:56AM (#26699012)
I didn’t mean to say they are getting a direct cut as sibling commenters indicated, but Valve definitely is getting at least some kind of money indirectly out of them offering this.
Re:Google collects 20 times more telemetry from Android devi... by throwaway53453 on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @04:44AM (#26644886)
I'm a developer who uses Steamworks. Keys are free for us to generate and sell at will. Valve reserve the right to say no, but from what I can tell, their only policy is to not take the piss (selling millions of keys), and not to charge more to customers who buy directly from Steam.