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Re:Why I’m a sucker for pen and paper by 1980phipsi on Friday March 26, 2021 @04:58PM (#26596856)
I have aphantasia (i.e. no visual imagination). It hadn't occurred to me that people could use theirs to help them memorize things...
Re:Why I’m a sucker for pen and paper by hypersoar on Friday March 26, 2021 @06:00PM (#26597499)
I have very little visual imagination and have experienced the audiobook/running thing a lot, but only in one direction. Running by the same place will often make me think of something I heard there, but thinking about something I heard doesn't bring back the place.
Re:Why I’m a sucker for pen and paper by tartoran on Friday March 26, 2021 @05:02PM (#26596902)
I think I have aphantasia to some degree and have experienced what the OP is mentioning. Also handwriting is a good aid for me to remember things, particularly if it is written by hand. I don't need to review the notes but the act of putting it down sticks a bit better. I will also have to add that my memory is better at concepts and abstract things but not so good at details.
Re:Why I’m a sucker for pen and paper by caddemon on Friday March 26, 2021 @05:27PM (#26597155)
The handwriting thing makes sense, since I don't think aphantasia necessarily affects motor memory. Drawing/writing by hand could actually be more important for people with aphantasia in that case, since it could provide a motor memory that directly corresponds to something visual.

Also I think at the core of the "visualizing things in different parts of space" memory trick is just making good associations. If you're much better at verbal/internal monologue type of thinking you could still do something pretty similar, by mapping the things to memorize into a story.

Granted certain things are easier to map to a visual space than to language, but that's true in the other direction too. Anecdotally it takes a lot of effort for me to visualize things and I barely do it naturally, but I seem to have a much stronger internal monologue and a better memory for things people say than most of my friends. I wouldn't be surprised if poor visualizing abilities during development could strengthen verbal reasoning a bit like how blind people have other senses heightened.

I really hope research into aphantasia will become more commonplace, but a lot of it is speculation for now unfortunately.

Re:Why I’m a sucker for pen and paper by JshWright on Friday March 26, 2021 @05:22PM (#26597114)
Yeah, I am familiar with this technique, and have tried using it in the past (as my "spatial" memory is very good, despite a total lack of visual imagination), but I've never been successful.
Re:Why I’m a sucker for pen and paper by caddemon on Friday March 26, 2021 @06:10PM (#26597605)
Interesting, how do you experience spatial memories? Is it somehow encoded verbally, or via somatosensation? Or does it feel completely subconscious, like a Pavlovian reaction? Or something else?

I am bad at visualizing things from what I can subjectively tell, but as far as memory is concerned it's mainly the spatial memory tests where I perform poorly. So it's hard for me to imagine what recalling spatial memories is like, besides the assumption that people can probably visualize them.

Re:Why I’m a sucker for pen and paper by JshWright on Friday March 26, 2021 @06:17PM (#26597662)
It's kind of (but not exactly) like proprioception. Close your eyes and hold your hand out. Even without visualing (because we can't...), you know "where" it is. It feels a lot like that. I just have a good sense of where things are relative to me and each other.