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Re:'Remember the Internet': An Encyclopedia of Online Life by luxuryballs on Thursday March 25, 2021 @12:36PM (#26582346)
Memorialize life online? To what end? Seems rather self important.
Re:'Remember the Internet': An Encyclopedia of Online Life by tablespoon on Thursday March 25, 2021 @02:54PM (#26583960)
> Memorialize life online? To what end? Seems rather self important.

Why are we sometimes curious what our great grandparents did, and why don't we just put our dead in the trash heap with the rest of our waste?

Re:'Remember the Internet': An Encyclopedia of Online Life by luxuryballs on Thursday March 25, 2021 @03:14PM (#26584192)
The mental projection of your digital self. Do you think that’s air you’re breathing now?
Re:'Remember the Internet': An Encyclopedia of Online Life by throwaway000345 on Thursday March 25, 2021 @02:22PM (#26583604)
Why do we take snapshots of life at any place and time? Why do we study history at all? Because those who come after will benefit from knowing from whence they came.
Re:'Remember the Internet': An Encyclopedia of Online Life by newswasboring on Thursday March 25, 2021 @02:37PM (#26583751)
This is weird. History, at least as it's colloquially used, is a accounting of important events in the past. We study history so we don't make major mistakes. Surely you are not implying everything online is important?
Re:'Remember the Internet': An Encyclopedia of Online Life by tablespoon on Thursday March 25, 2021 @02:58PM (#26584005)
> This is weird. History, at least as it's colloquially used, is a accounting of important events in the past. We study history so we don't make major mistakes. Surely you are not implying everything online is important?

That's an extremely limited, pretty old-fashioned view of history. There was literally a post just the other day about Latin grammatical genders that mentioned that linguists obsess over a few fragments of graffiti because that's all that's left that hints at how Latin was actually spoken by the commoners whose speech became the Romance languages. Other historians spend their time studying contracts and receipts from transactions involving cattle and grain of long dead Sumerian traders. There are many schools of history that are more concerned with how common people lived in ordinary and extraordinary times than great men and "important events" (e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History#Social_history). An important function of history is satisfying people's curiosity about the past.

Re:'Remember the Internet': An Encyclopedia of Online Life by PeterisP on Thursday March 25, 2021 @02:47PM (#26583873)
History does study and consider important records and artifacts that inform us about daily life of ordinary people in that time and place, it's not limited to "important events" according to some measure of importance.

For example, we consider valuable early writing on clay tablets that refers to accounting records, recipes and personal letters of ancient Mesopotamia (e.g. https://www.archaeology.org/issues/214-features/cuneiform/43...) which provide insight on how these people lived even if they provide no information on any specific major event.

Re:'Remember the Internet': An Encyclopedia of Online Life by andrewzah on Thursday March 25, 2021 @03:00PM (#26584023)
History is not only for important events. It's also important to understand the daily lives of past civilizations. A lot of mundane stuff was simply never written down, so we'll never know in a lot of cases.

One unique problem of our era is storing things digitally. If a huge event were to occur, wiping out humanity, archeologists won't be able to study ssds in thousands of years like we can study physical artifacts today.

Re:'Remember the Internet': An Encyclopedia of Online Life by tifadg1 on Thursday March 25, 2021 @02:36PM (#26583746)
Indeed. Of all the information I'm inadvertently exposed during the day, there's maybe 1 piece that's worth remembering tomorrow - maybe. I bet I'm with the absolute majority in this case as well.

In fact I've started the habit of deleting everything after a period of inactivity - be it computer history or social history - because it's either important and saved properly or it's not.

Certainly the world wouldn't loose heritage if random blogs, facebook, instagram, youtube went away, same as no one at large mourns the disappearance of usenet .. or myspace.

Re:'Remember the Internet': An Encyclopedia of Online Life by ncallaway on Thursday March 25, 2021 @02:50PM (#26583906)
> Certainly the world wouldn't loose heritage if random blogs, facebook, instagram, youtube went away, same as no one at large mourns the disappearance of usenet .. or myspace.

I don't know if I entirely agree. Historians of past eras work to piece together an understanding of the time based on scraps and fragments.

How rich might history be if we could see the views of tens of thousands of people, instead of hundreds?

Like you imply, the status quo for future generations looking back on this time will be no worse than what we have looking bad at the 18th century. In fact, it will be much better for future historians looking at the present. But there's a real potential to make it so much better!

Re:'Remember the Internet': An Encyclopedia of Online Life by Razengan on Thursday March 25, 2021 @02:28PM (#26583663)
> To what end?

The question to every answer.

Re:'Remember the Internet': An Encyclopedia of Online Life by renewiltord on Thursday March 25, 2021 @03:00PM (#26584038)
Like when historians say "In this letter, Abraham Lincoln said". If the data is missing, coming generations won't know what Trump¹ said.

¹ Only using him as an example because he is an influential person who used an online medium to communicate

Re:'Remember the Internet': An Encyclopedia of Online Life by luxuryballs on Thursday March 25, 2021 @03:49PM (#26584567)
Fair, but we do archive that stuff on public record. I just am not seeing the leap to what I imagine to be next: digital version of nature reserves. I like preserving nature in concept, but preserving digital stuff just for the sake of keeping it around, not sure if it should be a priority. Just like historical building remodel laws, I get it, might not always be the right move but that is contextual, just not sure such a thing should leak into the digital world.
Re:'Remember the Internet': An Encyclopedia of Online Life by renewiltord on Thursday March 25, 2021 @03:54PM (#26584628)
Definitely agree that preventing change is a bad thing. I think the digital world allows copying so we can both preserve and progress, as the Internet Archive has proven.