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Re:Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public ... by sonthonax on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @01:48PM (#26557903)
Despite all the vitriol, I have a degree of sympathy for the Reddit admin in question. I can't imagine how distressing it must be to be turned into a worldwide hate figure overnight; that has to be extremely psychologically damaging. Among the mob will be genuinely hateful and equally vile people who'll probably send a tsunami of death threats.

Reddit is in a bit of a difficult place; perhaps because of the legal duty of care Reddit has to their employee (particularly to someone who can legitimately claim to be marginalised) they can't just toss her to an incensed mob. Especially if that incensed mob was created by the actions of Reddit making clumsy choices.

Re:Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public ... by cde-v on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @01:52PM (#26557963)
Maybe don't hire a known child rapist/torturer if you don't want to be hated.
Re:Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public ... by gaius_baltar on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @02:10PM (#26558199)
> Maybe don't hire a known child rapist/torturer if you don't want to be hated.

To manage her political campaign, that's the important part. Being a candidate for a public office _is_ justified reason for discussing a person's employees/employers/companies/taxes/PRs/whatever.

I had no frakking idea on who she was until this, anyway.

Re:Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public ... by sonthonax on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @02:08PM (#26558166)
We're in agreement that knowingly associating oneself with pedophiles deserves a degree of opprobrium. However that does raise the question, how much opprobrium?

The person in question probably suffers psychologically a great deal. Who wouldn't if they were dealt with the double-hand of gender-dysphoria and a pedophile father? I think it is safe to conclude this person is not well. Does the world really stand to gain much exposing a fringe activist to the opprobrium of the entire world?

I might sound radical in saying this, but I really don't think they do, and I think that societal shame needs to be regulated in proportion with how useful it is.

Re:Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public ... by Closi on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @02:16PM (#26558266)
> The person in question probably suffers psychologically a great deal. Who wouldn't if they were dealt with the double-hand of gender-dysphoria and a pedophile father?

You don't get a pass on hiring your dad while he is being charged for sex crimes just because you are trans.

Re:Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public ... by sonthonax on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @02:27PM (#26558412)
That's not what I'm trying to address. I said that I agree that deserves opprobrium!

What I have trouble with, is the idea that it's somehow okay for the whole world to deliver it in the form of an ungoverned internet mob.

Societies have limits to how much opprobrium you can receive. The reality is that she's probably getting tens of thousands of death threats. In most places you have an inalienable legal right to protection from such things.

Re:Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public ... by Shivetya on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @02:41PM (#26558601)
I would say, if you are more than one level removed from the issue then you should be given consideration. If you are two or more levels removed then it should be not even on the RADAR

However given she is directly connected to the person at hand by willful association after knowing the issue she pretty much deserves no exception.

Frankly I could care less about her and more about how Reddit justifies hiring her knowing what they know about her.

Maybe Reddit can sell dispensations in the form of hiring people.

Re:Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public ... by Closi on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @02:32PM (#26558486)
What i mean is, your post seemed to imply that the opprobrium should be less because she is trans. I think it should be equal regardless of your gender identity.
Re:Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public ... by sonthonax on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @02:41PM (#26558607)
I think it's fairly clear that she's receiving far more opprobrium because she is trans.
Re:Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public ... by savingsPossible on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @02:55PM (#26558818)
No, but you get a pass because he was not yet convicted.

that is what a conviction means -- we should not punish people before it, nor should we punish people that associate with them

Re:Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public ... by Closi on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @06:26PM (#26561118)
> That is what a conviction means -- we should not punish people before it, nor should we punish people that associate with them

It’s still bad judgement to hire someone who you are aware is being investigated for kidnapping and raping a 10 year old child when you are in a political party trying to get elected.

I mean it’s not a good look for a political party to play the “I knew he was being investigated for child rape, but we hired him anyway because innocent until proven guilty, even though he was actually guilty in the end” card.

Re:Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public ... by bitcurious on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @04:32PM (#26560042)
> Does the world really stand to gain much exposing a fringe activist to the opprobrium of the entire world?

In this case, the person being shamed for endorsing pedophilia was hired to manage a communities of children. She hired a child rapist, married an admitted pedophile, and now (as demonstrated by this incident) has the power to control what media many children are exposed to.

I’ve no problem with her getting a job that doesn’t involve kids.

Re:Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public ... by LunaSea on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @02:15PM (#26558260)
Q1: Should a psychologically suffering person be able to run for public office?

I would say yes.

Q2: If so, should a public figure that is psychologically suffering be safeguarded from any criticism

I would say no since being a public figure was a conscious choice.

Re:Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public ... by jandrese on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @03:29PM (#26559279)
Technically most Reddit staff would have to say that they were associating with pedophiles if they were around while Ghislaine Maxwell was one of the biggest and most active admins on the site.
Re:Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public ... by LunarRover on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @02:20PM (#26558312)
+1 the Linehan article is explicitly hateful.

I think this is an attempt to defend her from that contravention of the hate speech policy, and is more cock-up than conspiracy IMO.

Re:Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public ... by generalizations on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @03:05PM (#26558960)
Conspiracy to hide a negative article? Could just be a cocked-up conspiracy.