Re:VW brand joins Audi in ending combustion engine development
by zelos on Monday March 22, 2021 @11:55AM
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> Buying a 6K second-hand car is not only much more ecological than buying a brand new electric car,
I'm not sure how true this is: 80% of ICE CO2 emissions are from driving/servicing I believe.
Re:VW brand joins Audi in ending combustion engine development
by iagovar on Monday March 22, 2021 @12:02PM
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Probably, but you still have to compare it to an electric car.
Not having a car wins in both scenarios.
Re:VW brand joins Audi in ending combustion engine development
by kazinator on Monday March 22, 2021 @11:34AM
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> I won't spend 30K in a car that only allows me to city travel.
Right? It's like a $30K license to be a four-wheeled member of the working class.
Re:VW brand joins Audi in ending combustion engine development
by iagovar on Monday March 22, 2021 @11:58AM
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I can understand the Fuzz in high-income countries. 30k seems doable when your income is in the range of 60-200k. For me 30K is a lot of money.
And honestly I don't really feel that moving around a massive battery in a newly produced car is better than buying a Fiat Panda and taking care of it. My brothers Panda is nearing 500.000 Km and it's fine.
That's fine for many people, not so good for the car industry and their direct and indirect jobs.
Buying a 6K second-hand car is not only much more ecological than buying a brand new electric car, but I have more range, I can get it cheaply fixed if I go to something like a Renault Clio, a Peugeot 206, Fiat Panda and the like.
Since I live in a flat and I don't have garage, I can park it in my street without worrying about recharging (it's just going to get me a few minutes to get to the gas station, a two minutes to get gas).
With the salaries in my area, spending 30K in a car it's just too much money. It's more than my current yearly salary. And there's plenty of people with lower income than mine.
Also, turns out electric cars come with a lot of bloat that breaks, so the most immediate upside of such car goes away.
As far as I can see, too much has to change for mass adoption. With the current trend they'll remind cars for rich countries and rich people for a lot longer.