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Re:Cryptography behind the top cryptocurrencies by monstersinF on Saturday March 20, 2021 @09:08PM (#26527307)
This is a great table of information. It’s news to me that Tether is based on Ethereum tokens. If Ethereum falls out of favor and offers an appealing 51% attack, or if the proof of stake transition has a vulnerability, would this affect Tether spectacularly and then impact BTC and all other CCs?
Re:Cryptography behind the top cryptocurrencies by Sargos on Saturday March 20, 2021 @09:39PM (#26527449)
Ethereum powers 95% of the work in the cryptocurrency space. If Ethereum has a fundamental flaw then it would be quite tragic for the entire industry and might cause years of chaos and set back crypto for a generation. Thankfully Ethereum is one of the most scrutinized and well tested systems ever made so the chances of that are extremely low and there's not any reason to worry.
Re:Cryptography behind the top cryptocurrencies by anthony_barker on Sunday March 21, 2021 @04:37AM (#26529005)
It used to be.. Tron is almost 50% now of USDT issued.

https://wallet.tether.to/transparency

Also USDC is on several chains as well including Stellar.

Re:Cryptography behind the top cryptocurrencies by iamacyborg on Sunday March 21, 2021 @05:25AM (#26529201)
USDT is a fraud though, I wouldn’t believe anything associated with it.
Re:Cryptography behind the top cryptocurrencies by smoovb on Sunday March 21, 2021 @07:32AM (#26529669)
Tether is as legitimate as any non-US, non-regulated, company unable to do business with reputable banks or auditors could be. The NY AG case went a good way to legitimize them.
Re:Cryptography behind the top cryptocurrencies by iamacyborg on Sunday March 21, 2021 @10:36AM (#26530757)
Errr, what. Here's a quote from the NY AG, I'm not sure how this translates into your interpretation of the case.

https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/2021/attorney-general-james-...

> “Bitfinex and Tether recklessly and unlawfully covered-up massive financial losses to keep their scheme going and protect their bottom lines,” said Attorney General James. “Tether’s claims that its virtual currency was fully backed by U.S. dollars at all times was a lie. These companies obscured the true risk investors faced and were operated by unlicensed and unregulated individuals and entities dealing in the darkest corners of the financial system.

Re:Cryptography behind the top cryptocurrencies by wtvanhest on Saturday March 20, 2021 @09:48PM (#26527503)
I started learning how to program some solidarity for fun and just to understand the whole concept better. While I agree that in the short-run 1-5 years, it’s extremely unlikely that something wins agains ETH, but... in the long run, 10-20 years, it’s a lot harder to know.

Not sure what that means for anything, but it’s important to remember that what we consider the gold standard today, BTC, ETH, they may be tomorrow’s tin.

Re:Cryptography behind the top cryptocurrencies by herbst on Sunday March 21, 2021 @07:09AM (#26529590)
This has happened before. A few years ago many did not understand the concept of smart chains and rather invested into new litecoin clones, all of which are replaced in popularity by smart chain tokens only a few years later. I agree but i think 5 years is enough to disrupt everything.
Re:Cryptography behind the top cryptocurrencies by hanklazard on Saturday March 20, 2021 @09:19PM (#26527353)
Yes, tether (and usdc + dai stablecoins) relies on ethereum for security.

Edit: this is one of the reasons I’m optimistic about the future of ethereum. The stablecoins have become so critical for defi that it’s hard to imagine another platform (like polkadot) gaining critical traction needed to overtake it.

Re:Cryptography behind the top cryptocurrencies by traeregan on Saturday March 20, 2021 @10:22PM (#26527651)
As far as non-ERC20 stablecoins go, Terra’s UST is gaining a lot of traction this year as well.
Re:Cryptography behind the top cryptocurrencies by gunshai on Saturday March 20, 2021 @11:52PM (#26527977)
Terra Labs and the Luna token is one of the few projects out of this latest cycle that has really energized me.

I was completely blown away with the design of the Anchor protocol that they just launched

I really hope that project continues its success.

Re:Cryptography behind the top cryptocurrencies by CptFribble on Saturday March 20, 2021 @09:59PM (#26527563)
Serious question from a crypto noob - what's the point of defi systems if they're all built on stablecoins and depend on the value of a fiat currency at the end of the day? Especially for permanently-deflationary coins like BTC?
Re:Cryptography behind the top cryptocurrencies by cslarson on Saturday March 20, 2021 @11:28PM (#26527902)
Non-pegged stablecoins are now starting to be experimented with on Ethereum, Rai and Bank/Float, for example.
Re:Cryptography behind the top cryptocurrencies by rawtxapp on Saturday March 20, 2021 @10:07PM (#26527595)
You can use them without being affected by Bitcoin's volatility on the same kind of blockchains and smart contract platforms.

And you can borrow stablecoins for your BTC without selling it.

Re:Cryptography behind the top cryptocurrencies by herbst on Sunday March 21, 2021 @07:10AM (#26529593)
Have you seen fiat fonds these days? Most stablecoin defi looks a lot more promising than anything my bank has to offer.
Re:Cryptography behind the top cryptocurrencies by duskwuff on Sunday March 21, 2021 @03:04AM (#26528649)
Cynical take: a lot of it is effectively financial cargo-culting -- building structures which mimic traditional financial products, like banks, loans, and investment funds, in the (fruitless) hope that this will create value.
Re:Cryptography behind the top cryptocurrencies by kfarr on Sunday March 21, 2021 @03:28AM (#26528735)
I thought the same thing about NFT art trading. But if everyone is part of the cargo cult and the cult is making real money then is it still a cargo cult?
Re:Cryptography behind the top cryptocurrencies by ben_w on Monday March 22, 2021 @09:03AM (#26540200)
One of the stories about how cargo cults were first noticed was someone needing to do an emergency landing, noticing a runway that wasn’t on their charts, landing, and finding the locals had built it so that aircraft full of cargo would land on it.

Given it was successful despite being a cargo cult (the plane landed QED), by symmetry the ability to make money with cryptocurrency doesn’t make it not an economic cargo cult.

(One must do more that this to show that it is a cargo cult, rather than that it is still possible for it to be, which I say despite liking the cargo cult comparison and being generally very against cryptocurrency).

Re:Cryptography behind the top cryptocurrencies by duskwuff on Sunday March 21, 2021 @04:58PM (#26533962)
> But if everyone is part of the cargo cult and the cult is making real money

False premise. Some people are making money, but only at the expense of others. There is no value being created here.

Re:Cryptography behind the top cryptocurrencies by mandelbrotwurst on Sunday March 21, 2021 @01:49AM (#26528389)
They're built on Ethereum, not stablecoins. The stability of the network currently relies on stablecoins only in the sense that people use stablecoins to store wealth in situations where fiat is more stable than crypto.
Re:Cryptography behind the top cryptocurrencies by anthony_barker on Sunday March 21, 2021 @04:39AM (#26529014)
https://wallet.tether.to/transparency

Tron is growing ... USDC is multichain as well.

Re:Cryptography behind the top cryptocurrencies by np_tedious on Saturday March 20, 2021 @09:17PM (#26527340)
I believe the answer is yes, but this receives fairly little attention because people are more concerned about Bitfinex treasury and the USD backing than they are about the ethereum dependency
Re:Cryptography behind the top cryptocurrencies by shp0ngle on Saturday March 20, 2021 @09:22PM (#26527378)
Tether is on more networks. I think the most popular one is TRON (most Tether is traded on TRON) but I might be wrong

edit: Yeah I remember correctly

https://www.coindesk.com/tron-ethereum-tether-transaction-co...

The irony of most cryptocurrency market cap depending on mostly scam currency TRON is not lost upon me.

Re:Cryptography behind the top cryptocurrencies by CryptoPunk on Saturday March 20, 2021 @09:43PM (#26527473)
Most Tether is on Ethereum:

https://wallet.tether.to/transparency

Most Tether volume is also on Ethereum, as the article above notes:

>>Notably, the total value of tether transacted on Ethereum is still larger than Tron, signaling that primarily smaller transactors are migrating. Meanwhile, parties executing larger transactions who can presumably afford higher fees seem comfortable continuing to use Ethereum.

The big issue is that there's simply no space on Ethereum for smaller transactions. Hopefully some of this volume will migrate to Ethereum's zkRollups, namely Loopring and zkSync, which increase Ethereum's maximum throughput from 30 to 3,000 ERC20 token transfers per second.

Re:Cryptography behind the top cryptocurrencies by shp0ngle on Sunday March 21, 2021 @12:44AM (#26528176)
Ah. Okay then
Re:Cryptography behind the top cryptocurrencies by ketamine__ on Saturday March 20, 2021 @09:36PM (#26527435)
Justin Sun is good at promoting.
Re:Cryptography behind the top cryptocurrencies by ur-whale on Sunday March 21, 2021 @08:35AM (#26529941)
>Justin Sun is good at promoting.

In less PC-ridden times, this would just have been:

    "Justin Sun is a bald-faced liar."
Re:Cryptography behind the top cryptocurrencies by CryptoPunk on Saturday March 20, 2021 @09:46PM (#26527487)
Not really as Ethereum is a public ledger, with copies of the full transaction history distributed across thousands of computers around the world, so any malfunctions can be easily identified and fixed.
Re:Cryptography behind the top cryptocurrencies by postalrat on Sunday March 21, 2021 @05:48PM (#26534423)
If consensus was so easy we wouldn't need a blockchain or mining.
Re:Cryptography behind the top cryptocurrencies by CryptoPunk on Sunday March 21, 2021 @07:55PM (#26535258)
It's because Ethereum uses a blockchain and mining that there are thousands of computers with identical copies of the transaction history.