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Re:Ghana will no longer sell cocoa to Switzerland by fragmede on Friday March 19, 2021 @04:45PM (#26518000)
Even domestically, the reason Hollywood is the center of the film industry is because California was too far from the East coast for patents on moving picture cameras to be effectively enforced.
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Re:Ghana will no longer sell cocoa to Switzerland by Andrew_nenakhov on Friday March 19, 2021 @05:08PM (#26518156)
I thought it has more to do with weather, particularly ~300 sunny days per year.
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Re:Ghana will no longer sell cocoa to Switzerland by the_af on Friday March 19, 2021 @05:22PM (#26518257)
It was a bit of both. I think I first read about this in Lessig's Free Culture [1], but even Wikipedia mentions some of this: somewhat ironically because of the MPAA's current heavy-handed tactics, Hollywood was founded on piracy and patents infringement. Some moviemakers moved West to explore new territories and climates (Wikipedia mentions D.W. Griffith) but others soon followed suit in order to avoid Edison's patents. It can be argued that Hollywood was made possible by people who broke the law [2]

So Hollywood and the MPAA, who so aggressively pursue what they deem "IP infringement", have more than one skeleton in their closets.

Bear this in mind whenever someone tells you -- as often witnessed here on HN -- "but without copyright there will be no writers" or "art isn't possible without IP laws".

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[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Culture_(book)

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinema_of_the_United_States#Ri...

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Re:Ghana will no longer sell cocoa to Switzerland by Andrew_nenakhov on Friday March 19, 2021 @05:42PM (#26518405)
> "without copyright there will be no writers"

Just recently had a bit of a good laugh about this. I decided to read Caesar's notes on Gallic wars, and downloaded some random .fb2

It turned out to be a preview fragment, which ended with a stern warning that it is illegal to break copyright laws and that this book can be legally purchased via provided link. I'm sure Gaius Julius is very happy with how these guys protect his interests.

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Re:Ghana will no longer sell cocoa to Switzerland by elmomle on Friday March 19, 2021 @07:16PM (#26519140)
That's ostensibly for the translator (of course it's more for the publisher). You can get (typically Edwardian-era or earlier) public domain translations, or the original Latin, for free in lots of places.
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Re:Ghana will no longer sell cocoa to Switzerland by Andrew_nenakhov on Saturday March 20, 2021 @04:56AM (#26521725)
I read it in russian, and I specially checked that russian translator died almost a hundred years ago.
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Re:Ghana will no longer sell cocoa to Switzerland by elmomle on Sunday March 21, 2021 @09:15PM (#26535764)
Ah, yes that was rather Anglocentric of me, apologies. And that's a lousy situation--any idea why that's the case?
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Re:Ghana will no longer sell cocoa to Switzerland by madeofmeat on Friday March 19, 2021 @08:55PM (#26519770)
They have a public domain English translation free at gutenberg.org
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Re:Ghana will no longer sell cocoa to Switzerland by inglor_cz on Saturday March 20, 2021 @09:21AM (#26523030)
"but without copyright there will be no writers"

Well, without copyright, writers would find it hard to live off their work, but contemporary copyright has outgrown its usefulness and it wasn't writers who pushed for extensions.

Let us get back to the original 14+14 model, but how, against a determined resistance of entrenched interests?

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