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Re:WallStreetBets members adopt 3,500 gorillas in six days by codebolt on Thursday March 18, 2021 @11:25AM (#26503616)
Bitcoin alone currently pollutes about the same as half the global airline industry. If cryptos really are the future, I weep for the planet.
Re:WallStreetBets members adopt 3,500 gorillas in six days by Sohcahtoa82 on Thursday March 18, 2021 @03:29PM (#26506531)
The thing is, it doesn't have to.

Bitcoin (and all other Proof-of-Work cryptos, which is basically all the major ones) only consume tons of power because the incentive to mine creates an arms race where whoever has the most hashing power makes the most money.

Bitcoin could be run on a single computer mining on a 10 year old CPU, but then it would be highly centralized, and decentralization is touted as one of the greatest features of Bitcoin. But with the incentive to run your own miner(s), and make it/them as powerful as you can to get the largest piece of the block reward pie, it ends up being a massive energy sink.

That's why people are pushing for the change to Proof-of-Stake in Ethereum. By taking away the incentive to waste tons of power on mining, it drastically reduces the carbon footprint of it.

Re:WallStreetBets members adopt 3,500 gorillas in six days by thebean11 on Thursday March 18, 2021 @11:28AM (#26503650)
Luckily mining with renewables is much less difficult technically than flying with renewables.
Re:WallStreetBets members adopt 3,500 gorillas in six days by colinmhayes on Thursday March 18, 2021 @01:48PM (#26505412)
Energy is fungible. Bitcoin using renewables just means that other electricity consumers are using fossil fuels.
Re:WallStreetBets members adopt 3,500 gorillas in six days by thebean11 on Thursday March 18, 2021 @02:39PM (#26505974)
Energy is extremely difficult and expensive to store, it's not fungible over a time period. This is why energy rates fluctuate during the day. It's also not fungible between consumers not connected to the same grid.

When generating energy (either with fossil fuels or renewables) energy is often wasted because there is no immediate consumer or way to store it.

What you say _can_ be true, for example additional consumers of energy on the national grid, during times of high demand, will likely result in more energy production. It is not true as a rule though.

Re:WallStreetBets members adopt 3,500 gorillas in six days by jfk13 on Thursday March 18, 2021 @02:19PM (#26505727)
Also much less useful.
Re:WallStreetBets members adopt 3,500 gorillas in six days by Supermancho on Thursday March 18, 2021 @12:11PM (#26504168)
How is that lucky?
Re:WallStreetBets members adopt 3,500 gorillas in six days by thebean11 on Thursday March 18, 2021 @12:35PM (#26504478)
Lucky for Bitcoin, there's a clear path to reducing environmental impact.
Re:WallStreetBets members adopt 3,500 gorillas in six days by lostlogin on Thursday March 18, 2021 @01:32PM (#26505252)
Or we could use that power for something a little more practical which we can’t do without.
Re:WallStreetBets members adopt 3,500 gorillas in six days by thebean11 on Thursday March 18, 2021 @03:20PM (#26506449)
Are you advocating for some sort of central authority who regulates what individuals use power for?
Re:WallStreetBets members adopt 3,500 gorillas in six days by zepto on Thursday March 18, 2021 @04:47PM (#26507366)
We already have that for large classes of equipment.
Re:WallStreetBets members adopt 3,500 gorillas in six days by thebean11 on Thursday March 18, 2021 @05:10PM (#26507585)
And you want to extend that to any device that plugs into an outlet?

Just trying to get your position straight here.

Re:WallStreetBets members adopt 3,500 gorillas in six days by zepto on Thursday March 18, 2021 @05:18PM (#26507663)
It already does, if a particular regulated activity involves plugging devices into outlets.

> Just trying to get your position straight here.

What else might we think you were doing?

Re:WallStreetBets members adopt 3,500 gorillas in six days by thebean11 on Thursday March 18, 2021 @06:36PM (#26508267)
> It already does, if a particular regulated activity involves plugging devices into outlets.

Can you be more specific about the existing regulated activities you're talking about? I don't get your point but I might just be missing something here. AFAIK, the reasons for existing regulations on "activities or devices" are not related to electrical usage..

Re:WallStreetBets members adopt 3,500 gorillas in six days by emteycz on Thursday March 18, 2021 @02:45PM (#26506045)
What we? These are individuals, each with their own goals. Give them some other business opportunity and I'm sure they'll jump on it - it just needs to be as good as Bitcoin.
Re:WallStreetBets members adopt 3,500 gorillas in six days by smabie on Thursday March 18, 2021 @03:01PM (#26506259)
My (and others) livelihood depends on the existence of crypto currency. Seems pretty practical to me.
Re:WallStreetBets members adopt 3,500 gorillas in six days by skohan on Thursday March 18, 2021 @12:51PM (#26504689)
Is that true? That's shockingly more than I would have imagined