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Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by aerovistae on Monday March 15, 2021 @12:56PM (#26468434)
I've had this damn site bookmarked for longer than I can remember. At least 4 years, I think, and maybe as long as 9. Idk. I always tell myself "someday I'm going to sit down and learn knots from this site," but someday never seems to come.

Maybe because in reality I have almost no use whatsoever for knot-tying, as cool as it is.

Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by narag on Monday March 15, 2021 @06:38PM (#26470219)
Maybe because in reality I have almost no use whatsoever for knot-tying, as cool as it is.

A long time ago I learned "as de guía", let me see the translation... bowline. It's the only knot I've ever needed. I know there are a lot of specialized knots for different situations. But this one in particular is like a swiss army knife. Clothes lines, anything to lift, packaging...

If I needed something more specific I'd be happy to learn more.

Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by ch4s3 on Monday March 15, 2021 @07:03PM (#26470458)
That's a really useful knot, especially if you also know how to tie two half hitches [1] for securing the other end in a way that can be tightened. The sheet-bend [2] and square knot [3] are my other two favorite useful knots.

[1] https://www.animatedknots.com/two-half-hitches-knot

[2] https://www.animatedknots.com/sheet-bend-knot

[3] https://www.animatedknots.com/square-knot

Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by justusthane on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @10:21AM (#26477011)
Truckers Hitch is also very useful. Allows you to get things very tight due to functioning like a pulley.

https://www.animatedknots.com/truckers-hitch-knot

Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by mdotshell on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @10:31AM (#26477154)
This and the bowline are my favorite knots
Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by 0xbadcafebee on Monday March 15, 2021 @07:31PM (#26470748)
I like a Lark's Head (https://www.animatedknots.com/cow-hitch-knot-end-method) with a Half-Hitch. Very easy for most people to remember, applicable everywhere.
Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by narag on Monday March 15, 2021 @07:40PM (#26470836)
Thank you! They seem very easy to learn.
Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by thefunnyman on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @03:42AM (#26473993)
These are exactly the knots they teach in Boy Scouts. All very simple and worthwhile to learn.
Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by ethbr0 on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @06:13AM (#26474866)
Every knot I know now, I originally learned in Boy Scouts. Because I actually sat down and practiced them for a week+.

Best advice for learning: get a convenient (2-4' depending on knots) piece of rope, thin enough to be portable, thick enough to be manageable, and practice tying knots as a fidget spinner

Initially it will be tough and require thought, but for a lot of the patterns you can do it without looking after a bit of practice. And repetition breeds memory.

Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by wrycoder on Monday March 15, 2021 @11:17PM (#26472560)
The bowline is very useful, and there are several ways to tie it, depending on the thickness of the line.

I find I use the midshipman’s knot at least as frequently. It seems I’m always tying knots in lines that need to be adjusted: Boat covers, awnings, tent ropes, etc.

https://www.animatedknots.com/midshipmans-hitch-knot

Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by markdown on Monday March 15, 2021 @08:45PM (#26471504)
The Bowline and Reef knots are the only two I've ever needed.
Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by aidos on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @03:40AM (#26473989)
The Bowline is definitely the only knot to learn if you have to choose just one.

There are 3 (that I know of) different ways to tie it that are worth learning as a next step. One of them lets you prepare it so you can quickly tie it around something and have it invert on itself to form. Another technique actually revels that the bowline is the same as a sheet bend, just using one line folded back on itself to make a loop instead of 2 lines joined. So that’s a freebie (and the sheet bend is a great knot).

It’s super versatile.

I never use the reef knot anymore. Lost a dingy in Greece because I trusted it for about 5 minutes. I find it works itself free really easily.

Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by markdown on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @05:32AM (#26474616)
> I never use the reef knot anymore. Lost a dingy in Greece because I trusted it for about 5 minutes. I find it works itself free really easily.

Hmmm... I'll keep that in mind. Thanks.

Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by aidos on Monday March 15, 2021 @06:21PM (#26470024)
I love this website. Having spent a bit of time on yachts I already had a reasonable grounding, but it’s easy to forget knots you’re not using. For a while I found the easiest way to get to sleep each night was to try to picture how to tie the tumble hitch and visualising where the forces were held.

https://www.animatedknots.com/tumble-hitch-knot

Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by smhinsey on Monday March 15, 2021 @01:06PM (#26468542)
This is the key, as with many things it’s hard to get momentum established without some external motivation. It was always interesting to me but I could never keep a knot in my head until I picked up fly fishing.
Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by 0xbadcafebee on Monday March 15, 2021 @07:23PM (#26470667)
Do you have a kinky significant other / do you want one? Pick up some 4mm braided nylon rope from Home Depot, google "rope bondage", and go to town. (Books from Two Knotty Boys, Lee Harrington, and Jay Wiseman are the gold standard instructions; Douglas Kent's books have lots of technical information, but are apparently rife with errors)
Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by sizzzzlerz on Monday March 15, 2021 @01:24PM (#26468804)
I've used it for a long time as well. I love learning new knots and it provides very through instructions on how to tie them. My problem is that, if I don't continually practice, I quickly forget. Fortunately, I have 4 or 5 goto knots that serve nearly every conceivable situation where a knot is required.
Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by travisjungroth on Monday March 15, 2021 @01:50PM (#26469103)
I've taught a few dozen ropes course leaders over the years. Knots fall out of people's minds surprisingly quickly. It isn't like riding a bike.
Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by nosianu on Monday March 15, 2021 @05:20PM (#26469217)
If I were to venture a hypothesis, it is because riding a bike really requires "rewiring" inside the brain, as an all-body activity and involving a large amount of muscles and coordinating them. Which also is why it takes a while, unless you already trained to get the required balance control through some other means (the Asian martial arts fantasy movies come to mind, people running over easily rolling tree trunks floating in water - if you can do that you probably need less time to pick up riding a bicycle).

Knots on the other hand probably mostly only use the existing wiring scheme, so unless you have really bad hand/finger coordination you don't need to change how the muscles (of only arm - slightly, hand, fingers) are activated and used.

Purely intellectual knowledge is easily forgotten unless used, but activities that required certain neurons for proprioception and muscle control to find new connections remain much more easily - also takes a lot longer to gain.

Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by GuB-42 on Monday March 15, 2021 @06:22PM (#26470038)
Knots are easy to forget unless you actually understand the knot.

For example, I can tie a bowline as well as most bowline-like knots (ex: sheet bend) without a recipe and even come up with variants on the fly, and I don't think I will ever forget that. This is, of course, after tying a lot of bowlines and forgetting recipes dozens of times.

I think that's for your "riding a bike" analogy. Really understanding a knot takes time and effort, but allows you to remember and even improvise. Memorizing a recipe is faster, more efficient, but easier to forget.

Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by BiteCode_dev on Monday March 15, 2021 @01:42PM (#26469025)
Can you name them ?
Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by kortex on Monday March 15, 2021 @07:16PM (#26470592)
My dirty dozen-ish: tautline hitch, bowline, square knot, figure eight + variants, fisherman's knot, N half hitches, sheet bend, Zeppelin bend, trucker hitch, Alpine butterfly, hangman knot, and a variant on the shoe knot that doesn't come loose. Can't remember the name but in sure you can find many variants with a search.

Square knot most people already know. Tautline and bowline are the two worth memorizing being able to do soaking wet in the dark.

Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by JshWright on Monday March 15, 2021 @10:00PM (#26472012)
Personally I rate the figure-8 over the bowline. I think it's a much more versatile family (and much easier to tie and inspect with high confidence soaking wet in the dark).
Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by kortex on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @03:24PM (#26481607)
Good point! I think I mentally chucked it with the square knot under "knots that should already be in most people's inventory" but you are right, that is definitely worth learning, since there are so many useful variants.

So like, 4 essential knots: Figure 8, square knot, bowline, hitch. The map, filter, fold, and reduce of knots, if you will. Most everything else can be composed from those.

Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by JshWright on Monday March 15, 2021 @05:48PM (#26469619)
Not the parent comment, but you'll get a long way with a figure-8 (both on a working end and on a bight), a clove hitch, and an alpine butterfly. I'm sure others have a couple more favorites.

(this is omitting a few "foundation" knots like the overhand)

Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by qbasic_forever on Monday March 15, 2021 @10:50PM (#26472347)
Learn a munter hitch, it's extremely versatile and can do everything from securing something, to belaying or rappeling off it (with a locking carabiner). It is an extremely important knot for setting up rescue systems as it can hold a load under tension, yet can be undone and slack added to the system while under complete control.
Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by blacktriangle on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @08:46AM (#26475976)
Backpacking finally got me motivated to tie knots. On a single trip I had two janky plastic connectors break leading to some very awkward tying and repositioning of gear. This got me thinking about what people did in the wilderness before everything had its own little custom plastic latch, and the so obvious mind-blowing conclusion that they knew their knots and just used rope.

Knots are kind of like manual transmission. It's a skill that everybody used to have until it was replaced by a more convenient technology that nobody had to learn.

So for me, the realization that with a little knowledge I could obsolete an entire classification of annoying and breakable connectors got me to finally sit down and study knots.

Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by heleninboodler on Monday March 15, 2021 @01:19PM (#26468738)
I end up at this site about once a year trying to refresh my memory on a good knot for securing a load, but their categorization system makes that particularly hard to find. Once you do, their presentation is pretty good, but I find the site navigation very frustrating.
Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by blacksmith_tb on Monday March 15, 2021 @01:45PM (#26469052)
Betting that's the Trucker's Hitch[1] which is a knot (or more like a combination of knots, really) which everyone should know! I tend to use an Alpine Butterfly[2] for the loop, but that's partly because it's a personal fave.

1: https://www.animatedknots.com/truckers-hitch-knot 2: https://www.animatedknots.com/alpine-butterfly-loop-knot

Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by leephillips on Monday March 15, 2021 @05:41PM (#26469520)
Seconded. The trucker's hitch is super useful, but most people have no idea that such a thing exists. Knots are good technology. Everyone should know a few, and this one is in the top four. But I agree with others here who've noticed that you need to practice frequently to keep from forgetting them.
Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by tmoertel on Monday March 15, 2021 @09:50PM (#26471945)
Along the lines of the trucker's hutch, I particularly like the Versatackle knot system:

https://notableknotindex.webs.com/Versatackle.html

Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by chooseaname on Monday March 15, 2021 @09:31PM (#26471829)
Two knots: bowline and trucker’s hitch. You’ll need them one day.
Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by JshWright on Monday March 15, 2021 @09:53PM (#26471967)
Trucker's hitch isn't really a specific knot. It's a technique that can use any number of knots (you just need to be able to put a loop in the middle of the rope and tie some sort of securing knot in the running end).
Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by cosmincimpoi on Friday March 19, 2021 @09:15AM (#26512904)
Also Zeppelin and constrictor for joining ropes and tying bags.
Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by jjav on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @02:02AM (#26473513)
I started learning knots by having a sailboat where they are undeniably useful. However, after learning a handful, they end up being useful in all areas of life wherever one needs to hold something to something else (in a car, on a bike, in the yard when it's windy, endless possibilities).

To echo others, if you have interest to learn just one thing, learn the bowline. You can get through life knowing just that.

Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by jschwartzi on Monday March 15, 2021 @11:29PM (#26472624)
I use the alpine butterfly to make a trucker's hitch, and I'll often use a friction knot at the end when I've tensioned the line. With those few knots I can use a single 100ft rope in place of a bunch of ratcheting hitches for securing loads in the bed of my truck. And when I want to release the load I can just untie a couple of corners and the whole rope comes out.
Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by lemonberry on Monday March 15, 2021 @01:25PM (#26468819)
I have almost zero use for knots, but use it as a kind of a meditative practice and as something to do when I'm watching tv or a movie. I think it's analogous to crocheting or knitting in that regard.
Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by repiret on Monday March 15, 2021 @01:28PM (#26468861)
Well, crocheting and kitting are both tying knots in yarn.
Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by carabiner on Monday March 15, 2021 @05:58PM (#26469752)
Favorite and forget. I'm a climber and use a handful.
Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by unixhero on Monday March 15, 2021 @06:02PM (#26469787)
Do you use any other knots than the 8 knot for climbing?
Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by scarecrowbob on Monday March 15, 2021 @06:16PM (#26469961)
Can't comment for parent, but I agree. As a climber I only know a couple of knots, and don't usually need anything outside this set, in order of utility:

- figure 8 - clove hitch - klemheist - overhand bend - girth hitch - munter hitch - prussik - ring bend - double fishermans - bowline

Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by breatheoften on Monday March 15, 2021 @06:56PM (#26470404)
This is a good selection of climbing knots.

I went down a rabbit hole recently surveying the "current internet wisdom" regarding the use of the double bowline with fisherman as a tie in knot for the climber ...

To recap briefly -- figure 8 follow through is the standard tie in knot that everyone is taught. It's easy to tie, easy to verify visually, and secure -- but it's hard to untie after being weighted by a fall.

That last fact matters a lot when sport climbing when taking big falls a lot is expected. Hence the several different versions of the bowline ... which is also secure if tied properly, easier to tie wrong, harder to verify visually, but extremely easy to untie after weighting ... Unfortunately there's a bit of a controversy in the climbing world regarding "what people are likely to do wrong" and whether those kinds of risks should guide people towards not using the double bowline as a tie in ... there are also multiple variations of the bowline -- some of which actually are less secure ...

Personally I've been using the double bowline with a fisherman finishing knot for years now when sport climbing -- but it's a bitch to say it ... -- but I think a worthy addition to your list (or at least a clarification that the regular bowline by itself is not really used for anything in climbing)

Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by roessland on Monday March 15, 2021 @08:00PM (#26471062)
Apparently there is a wrong way of tying a figure 8, that leads to a version that is much harder to untie. Personally I've never had issues untying a figure 8, so it might just be that my default way of tying it happened to be the correct way.

It's described in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAr-uHd8h8o Skip to 13:20 for the interesting part.

Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by breatheoften on Monday March 15, 2021 @11:16PM (#26472551)
That's a very interesting and well-done experiment! I definitely learned something -- and I buy the argument that there is a way to tie a figure 8 that makes it less likely or significantly less likely to be difficult to untie ...

But I think that as rope wears and as humidity goes up -- you'll still easily find situations where the knot was correctly tied but still a lot of effort to untie after load ...

And 12-18 seconds to untie is still a lot more time required than untie'ing the double bowline ... And he's showing figure 8 on a bite so he doesn't have to take the extra seconds to undo the figure 8 after ... that's not a huge deal but the double bowline is still imo easier to tie, faster to tie, and faster/more ergonomic to untie -- and also of course, harder to verify that it was tied safely by visual inspection ...

Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by GuB-42 on Monday March 15, 2021 @07:17PM (#26470603)
Just curious, why is the clove hitch so high on the list.

I hate that knot, and never understood its widespread popularity. It tends to jam and slip. I guess that there are cases where these combined properties are useful, for example if you want to make things adjustable, but most of the times, I just find it unsafe and hard to control.

I did a bit of sailing and while the clove hitch was taught early, we almost never used it. I'd say the most useful list include, from memory: bowline - figure 8 - two half hitches - cleat hitch - reef knot, and of course, proper coiling.

About the reef knot. It is also called the square knot, and it should be used only when appropriate (ex: on reefing), it can be dangerous when misused.

I also tried a more... adult kind of knot tying and the clove hitch is generally a bad idea.

Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by roessland on Monday March 15, 2021 @07:52PM (#26470979)
In multipitch climbing the clove hitch is used to attach yourself to every belay. In this situation adjustment is useful. It usually only holds body weight, and it's always tied in a carabiner, so you can slide the carabiner out instead of untying. It doesn't slip with climbing ropes either. So it's perfect for climbing.
Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by scarecrowbob on Monday March 15, 2021 @11:25PM (#26472609)
This.

It's what I use between my harness and the anchor to tie myself to the belay

I have used it with, say, guy lines on a tent, and it is finicky there, or around a tree... but with a 9mm climbing rope and a carabiner it's quite good.

It's easy to inspect, it is easy to tell if you've tied a girth or munter hitch on accident, and it's easy to untie by removing the carabiner.

Best of all, it's very easy to adjust without fully undoing the knot, and so you can change the length of the tether quickly.

Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by qbasic_forever on Monday March 15, 2021 @10:55PM (#26472387)
I was taught to use the clove hitch as a fast and easy to check way to secure something, typically for a backup to a primary anchor or knot. Like once you get up to the top and are anchoring in you can throw a quick clove hitch on as a backup while you get a stronger anchor setup. We also used it in crevasse rescue situations as a backup for the prusik/friction hitch.
Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by unixhero on Monday March 15, 2021 @06:37PM (#26470207)
That prussik might save your life, that's for sure:)
Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by Thrymr on Monday March 15, 2021 @06:10PM (#26469894)
You will almost certainly want to know the butterfly knot and a number of hitches and bends: https://www.animatedknots.com/climbing-knots
Re:Learn How to Tie Knots by ashishuthama on Monday March 15, 2021 @01:40PM (#26469004)
same here. Was excited to see "Knot of the Day", thought I could add that to my RSS reader and look at one each day..could not find a way to do that.