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Re:China’s $4k electric cars tap huge market Tesla can’t reach by sudosysgen on Saturday March 13, 2021 @01:33PM (#26448733)
17hp is reasonable for a small motorcycle. You only need more power if you are going on highways, and this vehicle doesn't. For comparison, it's about twice as much as the Honda Grom, which is certainly beyond a scooter.

It's as much power as a Honda Rebel 250, a CBF250, an MT125, a Yamaha Vixion, an ST250, etc..., and those are gas engines that will generally only provide like 50-70% of their power.

Electric golf carts generally use 3-5hp engines. That's because for small engines, the electric advantage of always delivering the same amount of power is a huge deal.

18hp was enough for many cars. It is fine for city driving. It goes up to 100km/h, it's fine.

Also, the peak power of the motor is actually 20kW, 13kW is the sustained power, which again is more than enough for city driving.

Re:China’s $4k electric cars tap huge market Tesla can’t reach by sgt on Saturday March 13, 2021 @02:07PM (#26449016)
It's certainly a new way of thinking about minimum viable cars. Nowadays you sort of expect 200hp from a normal family car, most often closer to 300hp. My car has a 4L that produces 286hp, and it's guzzling fuel. Most of the time is spent in towns and cities going slowly. I could easily move to electric, but sometimes I also need range and cruising speeds of 70-90 mph.
Re:China’s $4k electric cars tap huge market Tesla can’t reach by sitkack on Saturday March 13, 2021 @02:17PM (#26449097)
You are arguing past each other, hp has little bearing on the performance of a vehicle in the regimes we are talking about. Torque is what should be measured for in town performance and that is relative to weight. It only takes 10-30hp to maintain a vehicle at highway speeds.
Re:China’s $4k electric cars tap huge market Tesla can’t reach by sgt on Saturday March 13, 2021 @02:22PM (#26449155)
That's true. And how much hp/torque did the Model T have? Probably not much, and I am sure it could do a respectable 30 mph.
Re:China’s $4k electric cars tap huge market Tesla can’t reach by Retric on Saturday March 13, 2021 @05:24PM (#26450654)
The Model T had 20 hp and did 45mph on level ground.