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Re:China’s $4k electric cars tap huge market Tesla can’t reach by azinman2 on Saturday March 13, 2021 @03:21AM (#26444976)
Yet you seem to own a computer and presumably are ok with that?
Re:China’s $4k electric cars tap huge market Tesla can’t reach by teddyh on Saturday March 13, 2021 @11:50AM (#26447786)
“Yet you participate in society! Curious.”

— Mister Gotcha (https://thenib.com/mister-gotcha/)

Re:China’s $4k electric cars tap huge market Tesla can’t reach by tshaddox on Saturday March 13, 2021 @12:42PM (#26448236)
Pretty appropriate response to “cars are unethical” as well. For a huge number of people, especially in the United States, not having a car makes it essentially impossible to have a job.
Re:China’s $4k electric cars tap huge market Tesla can’t reach by mpol on Saturday March 13, 2021 @01:44PM (#26448828)
“cars are unethical”

That was not what he said. He was quite clear in making a personal decision. There was no force on anyone to make that same decision. That you are reading that into it might say more about the way you think :)

Re:China’s $4k electric cars tap huge market Tesla can’t reach by tshaddox on Saturday March 13, 2021 @02:26PM (#26449187)
On the topic of reading too much into things, note that I didn’t say anything about force or it not being a personal decision either.
Re:China’s $4k electric cars tap huge market Tesla can’t reach by Jonnax on Saturday March 13, 2021 @03:27AM (#26445009)
If someone feels like making what they see as a positive impact by making a lifestyle choice.

What's the point in saying: "But you do some unrelated thing???"

Is the argument that there's no point in making a small difference, it's only worth it if you're 100% ideologically pure?

Because I don't see where road deaths and microplastics in local rivers come into owning a computer.

Re:China’s $4k electric cars tap huge market Tesla can’t reach by azinman2 on Saturday March 13, 2021 @03:39AM (#26445054)
Computers themselves are a hodgepodge of resources extracted often horrendously from all over the world. Child labor for cobalt, various other rare earth products violently extracted with extreme acids scalding lands and polluting water sources, consuming vast quantities of oil to ship all these raw materials to then be assembled in massive factories with poorly paid workers, using terrible chemicals that can poison the workers and harm their babies…

The reality is almost all of modern technology, materials, tools, and life have huge externalities. Us being alive consuming resources and emitting green house gases further pushes us towards terrible climate changes, while taking away space from nature before us.

It just feels very arbitrary to stop at personal car ownership but maintain the benefits of all other externalities. Perhaps the OP also has many other resists to modern life under ethical guise. The computer is the one known exception here.

Re:China’s $4k electric cars tap huge market Tesla can’t reach by imtringued on Saturday March 13, 2021 @09:58AM (#26446964)
>It just feels very arbitrary to stop at personal car ownership but maintain the benefits of all other externalities.

Yes, it's incredibly arbitrary because cars don't suffer from low density development patterns. They don't cause pollution. They also don't cost a significant amount of money and this also doesn't force less well off people to get expensive leases because everyone buys low end cars. The tax burden of suburbia is absolutely insignificant. The fact that you have more roads per resident decreases the tax burden significantly. Their only fatal flaw is that new developments aren't funded by the federal government and private developers. Thanks to cars and suburbia municipalities are swimming in cash and never have to worry about their finances.

We should ban bicycles and pedestrian paths. Everyone should drive, even children. This is the future.

Re:China’s $4k electric cars tap huge market Tesla can’t reach by Jonnax on Saturday March 13, 2021 @04:48AM (#26445397)
It isn't a gotcha to say they own a computer.

Making a choice not to buy a car makes a measurable impact.

It's not a gotcha to say that they partake in society.

By your logic, it'd be arbitrary to safely dispose of motor oil instead of conveniently dumping it into the local park's pond.

Re:China’s $4k electric cars tap huge market Tesla can’t reach by bildung on Saturday March 13, 2021 @12:11PM (#26447959)
> It just feels very arbitrary to stop at personal car ownership but maintain the benefits of all other externalities.

It stops feeling like that once you replace assumptions with numbers.

Re:China’s $4k electric cars tap huge market Tesla can’t reach by imtringued on Saturday March 13, 2021 @09:48AM (#26446900)
He also has the audacity to exist, how dare he live! Let's throw stones at him for consuming any form of resource!, no matter how insignificant!