Re:Police raids across Europe after encrypted phone network ...
by yrgulation on Friday March 12, 2021 @07:25AM
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I dont even need a legitimate secure phone. All i want is a phone where i can install debian or any linux flavour, just like on a regular pc or a raspberry pi. There are too few options that allow for it and are quite low spec. Once we gain such freedom then we can get the security we want the way we want - not security as defined and controlled by a third party.
Re:Police raids across Europe after encrypted phone network ...
by tartoran on Friday March 12, 2021 @08:36AM
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The pinephone looks very promising though softwarewise is not there yet, it keeps on inproving quickly.
Re:Police raids across Europe after encrypted phone network ...
by ttt0 on Friday March 12, 2021 @07:40AM
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That'd definitely be an improvement, but you still have backdoors on your CPU brought to you by Intel(tm).
Re:Police raids across Europe after encrypted phone network ...
by mPReDiToR on Friday March 12, 2021 @09:41AM
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The only closed (and staying closed) part of the PinePhone is the FCC regulated part of the modem.
If someone wanted to make a modem with no binary blobs we could have fully Open hardware in toto.
There's the opportunity to make Linux programs scalable to small screens right now; that's a big part of the dev time currently.
Re:Police raids across Europe after encrypted phone network ...
by EliasWatson on Friday March 12, 2021 @09:20AM
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If you want to stick to Android, this is the best option: https://grapheneos.org
If you want secure hardware, it's basically impossible. All cellular modems are backdoored: https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-mobiles.en.html
Re:Police raids across Europe after encrypted phone network ...
by doggodaddo78 on Friday March 12, 2021 @07:34AM
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Re:Police raids across Europe after encrypted phone network ...
by nix23 on Friday March 12, 2021 @08:55AM
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The logo of encrypted-os is...unfortunate...my eye read instantly "pedos" in it.
Re:Police raids across Europe after encrypted phone network ...
by doggodaddo78 on Sunday March 21, 2021 @09:02PM
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How's that? It looks like a fingerprint mixed with wires and a circuitboard to me.
Re:Police raids across Europe after encrypted phone network ...
by jfhrnrkfkf on Friday March 12, 2021 @08:32AM
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Any truly secure phone will attract criminals which in turn will attract law enforcement scrutiny.
It's like building a private house with barbed wire, armed guards, ... people will wonder what's going on inside.
Today, the only way to make it as a criminal in the West is to fly under the radar.
Stuff like "the Amazon of drugs", or "the WhatsApp for criminals" will always be taken down.
The defenses in both cases can be quite different. For some people, a cheap Chromebook that you can wipe quickly plus 2FA gives great security, or using a modern (encrypted) phone with Signal. But what if you are, say, protesting against the construction of a new Google campus on top of your neighborhood? Then you'd don't want all your secret stuff on their infrastructure. Normally you assume everybody is playing fair, but it would be so easy for them to push out a malicious update to your phone to gather dirt on you.
If one has experience with AOSP and security, there seems to be a market for an open, secure phone. But I wonder how you'd keep the organized crime out, or at least keep plausible deniability to not get into trouble...