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Open the Desktop Signal app, connect it to your phone, and watch it download all the supposedly "expired" messages.

They will not always be shown, but they are downloaded.

Any truly secure phone will attract criminals which in turn will attract law enforcement scrutiny.

It's like building a private house with barbed wire, armed guards, ... people will wonder what's going on inside.

Today, the only way to make it as a criminal in the West is to fly under the radar.

Stuff like "the Amazon of drugs", or "the WhatsApp for criminals" will always be taken down.