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Re:PSA: macOS updates often modify your System Preferences t... by Alex3917 on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @09:05PM (#26419278)
Apple also tries to trick you into enabling Siri every time you install a security update.
Re:PSA: macOS updates often modify your System Preferences t... by LeoPanthera on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @09:47PM (#26419590)
By "trick you into enabling" do you mean "asks"?
Re:PSA: macOS updates often modify your System Preferences t... by SheinhardtWigCo on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @09:55PM (#26419655)
Asking multiple times to get a different answer is trickery.
Re:PSA: macOS updates often modify your System Preferences t... by dkjaudyeqooe on Thursday March 11, 2021 @12:07AM (#26420489)
That would normally be called "hassling" someone.

It's annoying but not dishonest.

Re:PSA: macOS updates often modify your System Preferences t... by SheinhardtWigCo on Friday March 12, 2021 @02:41AM (#26433175)
Normally, yes, but in the context of an operating system nagging to enable invasive voice recognition features every time a minor update is installed, I think “trickery” is an accurate descriptor. It is dishonest to ignore that I already said no and to put a check mark where I previously removed one, particularly when the request is to enable an always-on microphone. Anyone acting this way in real life would be called out for malice.
Re:PSA: macOS updates often modify your System Preferences t... by dividead on Friday March 12, 2021 @04:19AM (#26433725)
minor (5 Gb) update
Re:PSA: macOS updates often modify your System Preferences t... by codegladiator on Thursday March 11, 2021 @02:10AM (#26421193)
Trickery is opt-in by default and making it hard to opt-out.
Re:PSA: macOS updates often modify your System Preferences t... by wayneftw on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @09:14PM (#26419370)
Same thing with iOS updates. Every major update will force you to go through all of the options that Apple wants you to use like having a passcode and using Siri and other such things. If you don't choose the options that Apple wants you to choose – they will put a notification on the Settings app that you did not finish setup. Then you have to go through the entire setup again choosing the same exact options that you did the first time. A few times this is tripped up my wife who then complains that her phone is now forcing her to use a passcode to open the phone.

Also some settings are irreversible. For me, I made the mistake of using my personal Apple ID as my developer ID for a while. At some point Apple started forcing developers to enable to 2FA. Now that I've enabled it I am not allowed to disable it. So, one day I will have to start a whole new Apple account and lose anything that I have purchased.

Luckily I avoid getting locked in, I don't buy many apps and none of the apps that I use on a daily basis are purchased. Unfortunately I will lose all of my saved passwords and I will have to transfer my contacts, messages and photos manually. I don't even think I can transfer my messages so I will just have to lose the old ones.

Re:PSA: macOS updates often modify your System Preferences t... by midrus on Thursday March 11, 2021 @08:29AM (#26423757)
Well, I actually think that forcing, or encouraging the average user to use a pin code to unlock the phone is a good thing.

I can't get my mother to use one, and she has a lot of information about me in his phone (emails, conversations, etc).

Re:PSA: macOS updates often modify your System Preferences t... by wayneftw on Thursday March 11, 2021 @02:25PM (#26427935)
Dark patterns aren't encouragement.

Encouragement would be a statement of why they recommend some action. Instead they try to trick you.

Re:PSA: macOS updates often modify your System Preferences t... by webmobdev on Thursday March 11, 2021 @01:15AM (#26420853)
Yeah, for all the privacy and restriction features iOS provides, disabling it all and resetting some or all of it everytime you update your OS makes it really meaningless! I've come to realise that this is all Apple's own security theatre approach to mislead their users.
Re:PSA: macOS updates often modify your System Preferences t... by gumby on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @11:00PM (#26420050)
I just installed the latest security update and was not asked to enable Siri.
Re:PSA: macOS updates often modify your System Preferences t... by tonyedgecombe on Saturday March 13, 2021 @08:35AM (#26446447)
I was although it would be a stretch to say they are trying to trick you into it. It was clear and easy to dismiss, nothing like what Microsoft does to try and get you to use a Microsoft account on Windows.
Re:PSA: macOS updates often modify your System Preferences t... by dzhiurgis on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @10:54PM (#26420015)
Does anyone know why Siri on Mac is so pathetic. It never seems to work with "Hey Siri" and even after invoking manually it never understands when you've finished talking...