Re:China and Russia to build lunar space station
by Daho0n on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @03:36AM
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In a rare occurrence I agree with the saying "money isn't everything". Even if China paid the whole bill Russia could still "do half". In projects like this knowledge is at least as important and Russia do have a lot, even though it isn't what it once were in space tech and knowledge.
Re:China and Russia to build lunar space station
by m1k1 on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @03:00AM
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For comparison, Italy's GDP was 2 trillion in 2019. 20% more than Russia. Obviously Russia is going to be a junior partner. However, they got much more technical expertise than China.
Re:China and Russia to build lunar space station
by Bancakes on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @03:29AM
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Russia is extremely efficient. Look at what sort of military they have with their defense budget vs the USA.
Re:China and Russia to build lunar space station
by avmich on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @08:21AM
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Efficiently running away from Turkey?
Re:China and Russia to build lunar space station
by flohofwoe on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @06:00AM
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Wouldn't the obvious constellation be that China provides the money, and Russia provides the know-how? Russia might desperately need the money to keep the remains of their space program alive, while any interesting technology they still might possess will be transferred to China.
Re:China and Russia to build lunar space station
by Jyaif on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @07:00AM
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The Chinese landed a rover on the moon, which is as far as the Russians got. And they did so with up-to-date tech.
Regarding Space exploration, the Chinese are not going to learn anything from the Russians.
Re:China and Russia to build lunar space station
by flohofwoe on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @10:37AM
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The Russians didn't stop at the moon though:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venera
They didn't have much luck with their Mars missions unfortunately:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_program
Also, the Chinese manned space program was essentially bootstrapped by Russia:
Re:China and Russia to build lunar space station
by avmich on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @08:23AM
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Chinese prefer their own way. Not being content with others failed attempts, they now want to create their own modern autocracy story. Russian warnings about stalinism aren't heard in China.
Re:China and Russia to build lunar space station
by simonebrunozzi on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @02:48AM
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Good points, but when it comes to space launch and space technology, Russia still has a lot to offer.
Re:China and Russia to build lunar space station
by inglor_cz on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @03:18AM
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For a while, until China learns everything it needs from them and then discards them.
This scenario has been played over and over.
Re:China and Russia to build lunar space station
by fy20 on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @05:49AM
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Not a problem for the current government ministers. It'll be someone else's problem when that happens in a couple of decades.
Re:China and Russia to build lunar space station
by imtringued on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @06:30AM
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Adjust for PPP. Russia is poor but not that poor.
Re:China and Russia to build lunar space station
by junippor on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @07:04AM
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Unadjusted: $1.4Tr
Adjusted: $4Tr
I guess that whether or not it makes sense to adjust, in this case, depends on whether the expense will leave the country or not.
If you imagine that Russia's contribution to the project will be providing scientists and technology, maybe it makes sense to adjust.
Re:China and Russia to build lunar space station
by systemvoltage on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @11:15AM
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PPP doesn’t work when you need import goods from 40 other countries to build rockets.
Their GDP, in my opinion, is way too small for financing halve of this mission.
It was 2,66 trillion in 1989 and it was 1,6 trillion in 2018.
At average, 6% of that is reserved for military research.
By reference: Europe is 20 trillion gdp.