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Re:5k Year Old Bog Oak Table: Digging up 4k-year-old trees f... by dylan604 on Tuesday March 09, 2021 @10:39AM (#26399813)
When moving day comes around, I'm guessing you have to offer more than just beer & pizza when it comes to moving a 43' table.
Re:5k Year Old Bog Oak Table: Digging up 4k-year-old trees f... by lmilcin on Tuesday March 09, 2021 @10:43AM (#26399861)
I would say, in case of this table, "if you have to ask for price you can't afford it".

Just the raw wood material probably costs a fortune. Given the fact there aren't many people that can produce anything out of it I assume that the prices are astronomical.

Re:5k Year Old Bog Oak Table: Digging up 4k-year-old trees f... by samdb on Tuesday March 09, 2021 @11:19AM (#26400302)
People have been volunteering their time and they are still raising £200,000 to get the table completed.
Re:5k Year Old Bog Oak Table: Digging up 4k-year-old trees f... by quesera on Tuesday March 09, 2021 @11:23AM (#26400348)
And 43' of table with the density of ebony..!

From the article: 72 lbs/ft^3. Estimating the table width at 6', and thickness at 2", that would be a total weight of 3096 lbs. Plus a healthy non-zero for the legs and other supports.

If you carry the tabletop (legs and trusses removed) with 24 people, 12 on a side, one every 4 feet, that would be 129 lbs each. OSHA would not approve.

You could probably find 24 people at a woodworking school who are up for the challenge. It might be harder to find a place to put a 43' table in the first place!

Re:5k Year Old Bog Oak Table: Digging up 4k-year-old trees f... by hu3 on Tuesday March 09, 2021 @11:42AM (#26400531)
For metric system folks: 129 lbs is roughly 58.5 kg of mass per person to lift.
Re:5k Year Old Bog Oak Table: Digging up 4k-year-old trees f... by dylan604 on Tuesday March 09, 2021 @01:51PM (#26402242)
Metric system conversion should not be difficult, however, I recently learned it has been made convoluted.

Attempting to find out the per gram price of something bought in a kilogram bundle, I simply divided the kilo price by 1000. This is where it got confusing. I was told there are only 985 grams in a kilo. Me: huh?? It's literally the definition of the word kilogram, 1000 grams.

Fucked up maths: 1kilo = 2.2lbs * 16oz * 28g = ~985g

Further discussion on 1oz = 28g and least significant digit only made matters worse. Apparently, this is the standard on purchasing of items sold in kilograms.

Re:5k Year Old Bog Oak Table: Digging up 4k-year-old trees f... by mkl on Tuesday March 09, 2021 @04:13PM (#26404338)
> Apparently, this is the standard on purchasing of items sold in kilograms.

That sounds like nonsense. Standard where? What items? In countries that just use the metric system, there would be no conversion to pounds and ounces (most people would have to look up how to do it).

Re:5k Year Old Bog Oak Table: Digging up 4k-year-old trees f... by dylan604 on Tuesday March 09, 2021 @04:48PM (#26404780)
Hello logic, meet brick wall. Enjoy the conversation.

Lots of in between the lines intentionally left for the reader. No, I'm not in a country that normally uses kilo for weight. There are not many things sold by the kilo in non-metric using countries, but some items are regardless.

Trust me, I've already had this argument until I was blue in the face. It doesn't change the fact that this still occurs.

Re:5k Year Old Bog Oak Table: Digging up 4k-year-old trees f... by Dylan16807 on Tuesday March 09, 2021 @03:20PM (#26403624)
Who told you this? I can't find anything talking about 985 grams.
Re:5k Year Old Bog Oak Table: Digging up 4k-year-old trees f... by dylan604 on Tuesday March 09, 2021 @04:11PM (#26404316)
The people selling things in kilo bundles do not appreciate names being used. While there is no NDA in place, repurcussions are more severe than NDA's could dream. Silly questions like this are also not condoned.
Re:5k Year Old Bog Oak Table: Digging up 4k-year-old trees f... by Dylan16807 on Tuesday March 09, 2021 @07:30PM (#26406343)
If it's only a few weird drug people you met then it's not "the standard".
Re:5k Year Old Bog Oak Table: Digging up 4k-year-old trees f... by kaybe on Tuesday March 09, 2021 @07:31PM (#26406352)
Is this in the US?
Re:5k Year Old Bog Oak Table: Digging up 4k-year-old trees f... by hu3 on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @01:21AM (#26408383)
Sorry but I got curious: Where is a kilo treated as 985g?
Re:5k Year Old Bog Oak Table: Digging up 4k-year-old trees f... by dylan604 on Tuesday March 09, 2021 @01:45PM (#26402133)
Does OSHA have any say of something occurring in the UK though?

One of the image captions states 18 people carried a single slab, so there's no way 24 would carry the full table, even without doing the maths.

Re:5k Year Old Bog Oak Table: Digging up 4k-year-old trees f... by quesera on Tuesday March 09, 2021 @03:46PM (#26403978)
Naturally OSHA is not relevant, nor are feet or pounds, in the UK.

But I feel fairly confident that there are UK-localized versions of each.

> One of the image captions states 18 people carried a single slab, so there's no way 24 would carry the full table, even without doing the maths.

That does not follow. 18 people make many carrying jobs easier, but they are not necessarily all required.

However, since the four tabletop planks are not joined into a single piece, it is clear that 12 people on a side is not a reasonable approach.

If the tabletop is removed from the support structure, then 12 people make multiple trips with each plank, at 65 lbs per person, per plank.

If the tabletop is not removed from the support structure, and we conservatively estimate legs etc at 50% of the tabletop weight, for a total weight just about 2.3 (US/short) tons ... you would need 66 people, properly distributed, to stay within the OSHA recommended lifting maximum of 70 lbs each.

To get 66 people around that table, they would need to be about 3 feet apart, which is just barely adequate working space.

Fortunately we don't move things like this using people. Not even in the UK!