Re:Valve's Proton Has Enabled 7000 Windows Games on Linux
by charcircuit on Friday March 05, 2021 @03:48PM
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What's the issue with giving out kernel mode access? Almost everyone is gaming on single user systems anyways.
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Re:Valve's Proton Has Enabled 7000 Windows Games on Linux
by kevingadd on Friday March 05, 2021 @05:19PM
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Riot's Valorant rootkit is active from boot and actively monitors everything you run and will block things it doesn't like or doesn't recognize.
Most of the other kernel anticheat rootkits are more polite and don't run until a game starts them, at least.
In general having a bunch of random stuff from video games running with kernel permissions is spooky. You never know whether someone will find an exploit in one of them, or if it will cause performance, stability or data integrity problems.
Re:Valve's Proton Has Enabled 7000 Windows Games on Linux
by rkangel on Monday March 08, 2021 @05:48AM
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> Riot's Valorant rootkit is active from boot and actively monitors everything you run and will block things it doesn't like or doesn't recognize.
Honestly, if I was responsible for building an anti-cheat system this is the way I'd go about it. Anything that can run that you don't know about (e.g. because it ran before you started) is a potential risk.
Re:Valve's Proton Has Enabled 7000 Windows Games on Linux
by Google234 on Tuesday March 09, 2021 @06:27AM
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Cheaters now exploit boot loaders to side step this, funnily enough
Re:Valve's Proton Has Enabled 7000 Windows Games on Linux
by cwkoss on Friday March 05, 2021 @04:21PM
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Doesn't giving kernel mode access mean that if the game developer's CI is hacked, an attacker could push full compromise exploits down the channel?
Aren't there some security benefits from trying to confine apps to user land?
Re:Valve's Proton Has Enabled 7000 Windows Games on Linux
by charcircuit on Friday March 05, 2021 @08:38PM
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Userland can run DoS attacks, it can mine crypto, it can run keyloggers, it can steal, encrypt, and delete your files, it can make your system not properly startup, it can replace sudo or other programs that ask for passwords with a custom version, it can steal whatever's on your clipboard, it can infect other operating systems (depends how they are mounted), and much more.