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Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by nooneelse on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @02:37PM (#2634407)
It looks cute, but for a flash card app other interaction methods are just as quick and easy, maybe more so. Now, if something like this could be used so that a person could see, for example, their next appointment by peeking, but fully opening the cover activated the iPad normally, that would be cool.
Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by benwyrosdick on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @04:37PM (#2634920)
yeah, I agree. I tried it and it was very interesting but the interaction was very bad. For instance, you can't peek then close and think ... once you peek you have to open all the way or it will move to next question.

I appreciate the imaginativeness of it but it isn't really an enjoyable interface for long term use.

Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by lazerwalker on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @05:11PM (#2635048)
This is nifty enough, but Evernote has so many problems with its client UI design that I hate to see them spending front-end engineer development time on side diversions like this. I recently let my Evernote Premium subscription lapse and migrated my notes to another system because I was so frustrated with the painful user experience across their various clients, despite their core product idea being so awesome and their syncing/OCR/backend services working well.
Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by greyman on Thursday June 09, 2011 @04:52AM (#2636464)
I have the same impression about Evernote - I used Windows client, iPhone app, and online version (website), and all three kind of sucks (bloated UI, slowness...).

I myself migrated to simplenote. It's more lightweight and text-only, but I can live with that. iPhone client is quite decent and for Windows there is ResophNotes, or one can just use the online version. Everything is stored in text files, which is another advantage.

Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by smhinsey on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @09:43PM (#2635664)
What'd you switch to, out of curiosity? I loved the idea of it but the UI kept me from ever really getting into it.
Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by forensic on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @11:07PM (#2635817)
I'd like to know what you switched to?

As a Premium subscriber to EverNote, this news about a very bad flash card app indicates to me that they aren't serious about improving their core product and instead want to capitalize on the brand with gimmicky spinoffs.

Basically I just lost a lot of confidence in the EverNote brand.

Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by lazerwalker on Thursday June 09, 2011 @09:11AM (#2636990)
I replaced most of my Evernote usage with Markdown-formatted text files in Dropbox, using Elements as an iOS client. Dropbox gives me syncing, versioning, and online (read-only) access, and Elements lets me store all the notes locally on my iOS devices (as well as just being an otherwise fantastic app). There's no support for tags, but for the way my notes are organized a light folder structure works just as well.

I'm still using Evernote for collecting receipts, though. The combination of some smart Gmail filters (Amazon/iTunes/Steam/etc receipts all auto-forward to my Evernote email address) and the automatic PDF OCR (I've got a document feeder scanner) still make it simpler than anything else for that. I reference my receipts so rarely that I can put up with the painful UI once every few months.

Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by eggbrain on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @02:26PM (#2634350)
Very clever use of the smart cover, but in the end I don't feel many people will use it.

Its cleverness relies on having an iPad 2 and a smart-cover, which segments it. Then, from a usability standpoint, I feel it would be more annoying to continue to lift up a cover than to tap the screen to reveal the answer.

Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by whichdan on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @03:45PM (#2634701)
But isn't the whole point to target people who want a novel use for their smart-cover?
Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by Bud on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @02:43PM (#2634452)
It does not actually require Apple's Smart Cover; any of the third-party covers which are using magnets would work the same way. And there are already quite a few of those.
Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by eggbrain on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @02:51PM (#2634495)
Even if we change it from "needing a smart cover" to "needing a magnetic cover", the same general principal holds: You won't just need an iPad 2, you'll also need a cover that takes advantage of this capability, which will cut down your audience by a good amount.
Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by guptaneil on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @03:57PM (#2634755)
I would be willing to bet that the intersection of users with iPad 2's and users with iPad 2 + Smart Cover is very large.
Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by r00fus on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @05:21PM (#2635086)
Not only that, but it's literally the cutting edge and folks with most disposable income... ie, a great market even if it the covers aren't a large % of iPad2 owners.
Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by forensic on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @11:04PM (#2635811)
why is evernote diverging so far from their core product?

there are other flash card apps that already do this way better and i dont see evernote catching up anytime soon

the peek thing looks cool but it's not a useful gimmick because

1. you want the ability to use longer questions as well as images and video in your flashcards

2. you want to be able to move on to the next question quickly without the carpel-tunnel implications of physically unfolding this cover

3. proper flashcard learning requires more complex interaction than this. Each time a card is finished one needs to indicate how well they learned the card (among other things) In order to do this people would have to use 2 hands here.

The evernote marketing team is at the top of their game, as are the UI designers. But this is just brand cannibalization -- leveraging the evernote brand to get sales in an unrelated market with an inferior product based on a gimmick.

Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by nhangen on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @11:23PM (#2635854)
Last I checked the app was free. Sounds to me like a product they thought would be fun to make, so they made it. I dig it.
Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by forensic on Thursday June 09, 2011 @12:14AM (#2635942)
Sounds like you dig it because you're not a serious user of either flash card apps or EverNote.
Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by bryne on Thursday June 09, 2011 @02:48AM (#2636267)
Today I learned there are people who consider themselves serious users of flash card apps.

I use Evernote every day and it doesn't annoy me as a diversion from their core product. The smart Smart Cover integration is cool, at least.

Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by forensic on Thursday June 09, 2011 @02:57AM (#2636281)
if your job involves any amount of memorization, you should be using a flash card app with spaced repetition
Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by nhangen on Thursday June 09, 2011 @01:22AM (#2636103)
I use evernote all day every day, and I use mostly homemade flash cards. Evernote doesn't owe you anything if you're a free user, and if you're premium, then you obviously dig it enough to pay for it, so what's the problem?
Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by dshep on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @06:43PM (#2635313)
Cute, but flipping the cover back and forth is kind of low-tech right? I think this is a better product: http://ankisrs.net/docs/AnkiMobile.html
Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by flurie on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @01:33PM (#2634122)
It's an interesting use of the Smart Cover, but can it be a serious competitor to other flash card replacement apps since there's no easy way to report success or failure by lifting/replacing the cover?
Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by nateberkopec on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @02:30PM (#2634372)
Tapping the screen?

Also, is right/wrong reporting really that important? I don't have a way to do it with paper flashcards...

Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by steve_b on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @02:48PM (#2634472)
I find being able to report right/wrong answers makes flashcard programs much more effective. Once you try a program like Mnemosyne or SuperMemo, you'll never go back to paper flashcards.

http://www.supermemo.com/english/ol/sm2.htm

Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by brianobush on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @03:43PM (#2634695)
or anki, the OSS version of supermemo:

http://ankisrs.net/

Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by philfreo on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @06:28PM (#2635265)
or Quizlet.com :)
Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by flurie on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @02:44PM (#2634453)
Tapping the screen eliminates the benefit of using the cover alone as input and makes handheld use of this app even more difficult.

One might not be able to keep score easily with paper flashcards, but that doesn't mean it's not useful. I'm not that familiar with handheld flash card app space, but I could see an app providing score tracking and more frequent interweaving of previously missed answers, and an overview of immediate feedback can be helpful.

Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by esrauch on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @05:57PM (#2635183)
If theres no advantage over paper flashcards then why use such an expensive device instead of $1 paper?

Statistics are pretty much the only advantage I can see for using an iPad here instead of physical notecards, unless you have so many notecards that it would be a pain to carry them around which seems like a very obscure use case to me.

Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by emelski on Thursday June 09, 2011 @11:57AM (#2637581)
> I don't have a way to do it with paper flashcards ...

Most people separate paper flashcards into two piles as they go, one for those they got right and one for those they got wrong.

Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by forensic on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @11:10PM (#2635822)
1. Tapping the screen means you're using 2 hands.

2. If you aren't using spaced repetition statistics with your flash cards... you're doing it wrong.

Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by janesvilleseo on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @01:17PM (#2634054)
This is a very clever idea. This 'tactic' could be used with a lot of different apps too, maybe even a notification bar?
Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by jvdmeij on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @05:02PM (#2635007)
That includes your mail, facebook updates, twitter mentions, weather, etc. Had that idea some time back. Could be cool!
Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by kinkora on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @09:58PM (#2635688)
While the use of app + smart cover is ingenious, what I am more excited about is that this opens to a possibility of a whole slew of "smart accessories" + apps that utilises the magnets on the iPad screen.

Which got me thinking...what sort of really clever apps/accessories can one make that utilises these magnets?

I.e. Perhaps a puzzle game that uses "magnetic chopsticks" to interact with it. Or maybe an organizer app with "magnetic labels" where when you cover different parts of the screen, it pulls up a different functionality.

Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by daimyoyo on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @02:58PM (#2634525)
Very creative. I really like this. Well played, sirs.
Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by togasystems on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @01:34PM (#2634127)
Curious, how do the capture the event of the cover lifting?
Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by xuki on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @01:44PM (#2634164)
They don't. They capture the active/inactive event.

Try tap the home button and re-open the app.

Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by jessriedel on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @01:54PM (#2634204)
Could you elaborate? Is the inactive event triggered when the screen is completely covered, and any uncovering triggers the active event?
Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by xuki on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @01:59PM (#2634224)
There are some cases where these events are triggered, open and close the Smart Cover is one of them.

You can read the following API documentation for more info:

http://developer.apple.com/library/ios/#documentation/UIKit/...

My guess is they do the switch of question when applicationWillResignActive is being called. Simple as that.

Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by pacifika on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @02:42PM (#2634440)
Please someone create a bluetooth poker app like this! It would be a very expensive round of poker but imagine people sitting around peeking at their cards via their ipad. Brilliant.
Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by illumin8 on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @02:55PM (#2634511)
The problem with a poker app that utilizes this is that you would be showing your cards to other players. Poker players peek at their cards face down, not face up like an iPad.
Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by droz on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @03:39PM (#2634684)
This is such a great example of excess.

iPad 2: 500$+ Smart Cover: 40$ Evernote Peek: 0$.

vs.

Pack of index cards: 2$

Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by qq66 on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @03:49PM (#2634718)
Let me guess, you wear one of those giant trenchcoats in which you keep a film camera, a TV, a travel Scrabble kit, a rolodex, a piano, a homing pigeon, an encyclopedia, a barometer, a thermometer, a bubble level, a compass, a paintbrush and paints, an ocarina, a walkie-talkie, and of course, a pack of flashcards =)
Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by corin_ on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @03:51PM (#2634725)
An ocarina? Really?
Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by jevinskie on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @04:10PM (#2634807)
There's an app for that.™ http://ocarina.smule.com/
Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by benwyrosdick on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @04:34PM (#2634910)
now I find myself needing an ocarnia .... thanks
Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by orofino on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @04:03PM (#2634782)
I carry two in case the first breaks.
Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by droz on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @05:22PM (#2635088)
Absolutely :)
Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by dhbanes on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @03:53PM (#2634737)
Calculator: $5 Address book: $3 Notepad: $2 Camera: $40 ...

How is creating a useful application for an expensive device that replaces an inferior took an example of excess? It's not really like people buy iPads simply to replace a pack of notecards and nothing else.

Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by forensic on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @11:13PM (#2635831)
What you really want is Anki for iPad, which is a GOOD flash card program that uses modern neuroscience to improve your learning. And it's free.

Also doesn't force you to lift up a magnet in meat space to use it.

Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by colson04 on Thursday June 09, 2011 @11:37AM (#2637487)
How is it that in all the years of public schools and university throwing flash cards at us that I have never, until this thread, heard of spaced repetition systems? I looked up the program you recommended and will try it out for sure, but here's my questions for you: Is this something that you do everyday to maintain, how many subjects do you use this system on at one time and how long each day do you spend total doing this? Thanks for the info and recommendation - looking forward to using it.
Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by forensic on Thursday June 09, 2011 @01:47PM (#2638007)
Everything that I memorize I put in there. Makes it way easier. When I go to a conference or something and take notes, I put the key points into Anki so i won't forget.

If you do it every day you'll get amazing results, however I'm not that dedicated, but do it multiple times per week anyway.

Basically it makes my life a lot easier to have certain things memorized, and Anki makes memorizing stuff easier.

A lot of people (esp nerds) believe it is a sign of weakness to use flash cards. It's their loss.

Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by deltriggah on Thursday June 09, 2011 @12:33AM (#2635986)
All the people bitching against it wished they thought it first. Its a clever and simple idea. Good work.
Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by poloiio on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @06:34PM (#2635284)
upwards of 50 million in venture capital for 500k in paid users. icloud killed more than just a few yesterday.
Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by AustinEnigmatic on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @04:28PM (#2634876)
Ingenious I think! A fun way to learn!
Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by tealtan on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @02:00PM (#2634226)
Brilliant.
Re:Evernote Peek, The First iPad Smart Cover App by samyzee on Wednesday June 08, 2011 @03:24PM (#2634634)
awesome guys...really innovative!