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Re:Meat consumption and risk of 25 conditions: outcome-wide ... by jtdev on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @08:40AM (#26328124)
Re:Meat consumption and risk of 25 conditions: outcome-wide ... by adenadel on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @08:49AM (#26328234)
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make, but the Wellcome Trust is a large organization with an endowment worth tens of billions of dollars and a variety of funding sources. Your link shows a number of moderately sized grants for mostly infectious disease projects.
Re:Meat consumption and risk of 25 conditions: outcome-wide ... by navbaker on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @08:44AM (#26328165)
Is there an insight we are supposed to gain from this connection?
Re:Meat consumption and risk of 25 conditions: outcome-wide ... by user-the-name on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @08:55AM (#26328302)
Conspiracy theorists have a real thing about Bill Gates.
Re:Meat consumption and risk of 25 conditions: outcome-wide ... by ddorian43 on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @09:28AM (#26328702)
You can't deny that Bill has completely lost it trying to become public batman by force and shove whatever the fuck he wants into our throats by using his money "for our good".
Re:Meat consumption and risk of 25 conditions: outcome-wide ... by tasty_freeze on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @10:37AM (#26329724)
I deny it. I just disproved your assertion.

Bill Gates spends lots of his money trying to develop technologies such as clean burning stoves for developing countries, inexpensive toilets for the same, funding advanced nuclear technology. How is this shoving it down our throats?

Your single sentence is brimming with emotion: belittling him with the batman moniker, shoving it down our throats, whatever the fuck, scare quotes. HN has higher standards than this.

Re:Meat consumption and risk of 25 conditions: outcome-wide ... by ddorian43 on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @10:51AM (#26329957)
He is doing it by force. Paying ads, paying politicians, paying experts, paying democratic party, insisting on vaccines, insisting on removing meat (have you seen healthy athletic vegans ? extremely rare).

You have to look at things that he wants to be applied by force, not things that he "generously creates and you can optionally use it".

If I want to eat meat and Bill wants to raise taxes on meat by force (using his billions so I pay higher taxes on meat) then I don't see this being a good thing for me.

If he makes cheap soy-lent so people can drink it and rest in peace, then it's ok by me. But he is forcing soy-lent to me too.

Re:Meat consumption and risk of 25 conditions: outcome-wide ... by ChrisRR on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @12:19PM (#26331456)
No-one is forcing you to stop eating meat, and yes in fact I have a powerlifter vegan friend.

You're clearly brimming with emotion, and you seem to have drawn your own conclusion that bill gates is forcing you to stop eating meat. I'll be honest, that's a new conspiracy theory that I've not heard.

Why don't you think about it logically. What would Bill gates, a man who statistically only has 13 more years to live, gain from stopping you from eating meat?

Re:Meat consumption and risk of 25 conditions: outcome-wide ... by jtdev on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @01:37PM (#26332558)
Bill Gates thinks he's saving the world - presumably his ego and idea of a personal legacy are wrapped up in this.
Re:Meat consumption and risk of 25 conditions: outcome-wide ... by ddorian43 on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @02:44PM (#26333346)
> No-one is forcing you to stop eating meat

You will slowly see the influence. Bill Gates is going in that direction. It is just too much man, he is going too strong at it, motherfucker appearing in every news about the virus.

> You're clearly brimming with emotion, and you seem to have drawn your own conclusion that bill gates is forcing you to stop eating meat.

It's "let's hear what Ja Rule has to say about this" up to level 9000!

> and yes in fact I have a powerlifter vegan friend.

Yes I have a black friend.

> Why don't you think about it logically. What would Bill gates, a man who statistically only has 13 more years to live, gain from stopping you from eating meat?

The issue is that people think differently. A simple exercise to you: Go to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorde... and read a little about it. Now, think logically, thinking & behaving like that doesn't make sense. Yet, there is a % of the population that does.

Give somebody with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disor... billions of $, at the end of their life, and they are at your throat.

He is the Microsoft scenario, he isn't good. He just profits, his ego, he gets excited doing this, his NPD, whatever, but he isn't good. He can't be. Can't save the world by force a be a good guy at the same time even if it was true.

Re:Meat consumption and risk of 25 conditions: outcome-wide ... by gruez on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @11:53PM (#26338781)
>He is doing it by force. Paying ads, paying politicians, paying experts, [...]

Those don't sound very forceful to me. When you said "by force" I was expecting him to have Men With Guns raiding the houses of meat eaters.

Re:Meat consumption and risk of 25 conditions: outcome-wide ... by ChrisRR on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @11:05AM (#26330219)
Not even close. Most of the foundation's work is in third world countries, and doesn't even touch half the stuff that conspiracy theorists are insistent he's got ultimate control over
Re:Meat consumption and risk of 25 conditions: outcome-wide ... by ddorian43 on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @11:25AM (#26330552)
... he does both ? At least Batman only stayed in 1 city.
Re:Meat consumption and risk of 25 conditions: outcome-wide ... by user-the-name on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @04:32PM (#26334899)
Like I said: Conspiracy theorists have a real thing about Bill Gates.
Re:Meat consumption and risk of 25 conditions: outcome-wide ... by jtdev on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @08:47AM (#26328196)
"Epidemiological study supports assertions of those funding the study"

Does that not seem problematic to you?

Re:Meat consumption and risk of 25 conditions: outcome-wide ... by 542354234235 on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @01:51PM (#26332727)
“Problematic” being the catch all term to throw out rather than make an actual claim. Was the study faulty? Was the funding clandestine or did they attempt to conceal it? Does the Gates foundation support meat reduction for ideological reasons, rather than evidence based ones? Is The Gates foundation an industry that has a vested interest in continuing that industry (like an oil company funding oil benefit studies), and if so, what “industry” is that? What would they stand to lose, or gain, from the outcome of this study? What would they stand to lose or gain from any study, when their goal seems to pretty clearly be based on using the best available evidence to inform their charity programs? Is there anything at all beyond a charity that focuses on evidence based programs funding research to help inform their programs?
Re:Meat consumption and risk of 25 conditions: outcome-wide ... by adenadel on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @08:51AM (#26328252)
It might be if the Gates Foundation had funded the study.

https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s1291...

Re:Meat consumption and risk of 25 conditions: outcome-wide ... by jtdev on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @05:47PM (#26335899)
Wellcome Trust receives significant funding from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.