Re:Linux Desktop on Apple Silicon/M1 in Practice
by mhd on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @06:27AM
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Nothing else ever had the PC. And IBM wasn't too happy that it happened to them, either.
Re:Linux Desktop on Apple Silicon/M1 in Practice
by TheRealDunkirk on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @09:11AM
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It definitely makes Apple's decision to never allow generics seem wise in retrospect.
Re:Linux Desktop on Apple Silicon/M1 in Practice
by mbreese on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @10:00AM
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But they did at one point in the late 90’s. I wouldn’t say that was the only reason why they nearly went bankrupt, but it certainly didn’t help.
Re:Linux Desktop on Apple Silicon/M1 in Practice
by TheRealDunkirk on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @10:10AM
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Yeah, "never" was the wrong word. I forgot about that.
Re:Linux Desktop on Apple Silicon/M1 in Practice
by mhd on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @09:56AM
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In a way, they themselves started becoming a manufacturer of "IBM compatibles", they just locked their OS to them.
A Jobs-less alternate Apple universe might've been interesting though. He both canned the licensed Apple clones and made OpenStep into the next major MacOS revision. If Copland would've been OS 8 or BeOS as OS X, there could be viable clones, and thus maybe enough critical mass to keep PowerPC alive a bit longer.
Re:Linux Desktop on Apple Silicon/M1 in Practice
by uncledave on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @02:38AM
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We did actually but Acorn canned it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoebe_(computer)
Re:Linux Desktop on Apple Silicon/M1 in Practice
by guerrilla on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @04:18AM
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That's not what he means by PC. He means an open standard that anyone can build against with comparability between products.
Re:Linux Desktop on Apple Silicon/M1 in Practice
by uncledave on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @10:02AM
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That’s exactly what it was. Two other vendors were going to launch as well.
Re:Linux Desktop on Apple Silicon/M1 in Practice
by STRML on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @08:12AM
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The Phoebe's launch OS (RISC OS 4) was codenamed "Ursula". Unfortunately, shortly into its development, the Phoebe went on an (indefinite) break.
Re:Linux Desktop on Apple Silicon/M1 in Practice
by rbanffy on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @06:02AM
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In 1998, it would be an excellent opportunity to use Linux. At the time, I was playing with Apple's MkLinux on PowerMacs.
Re:Linux Desktop on Apple Silicon/M1 in Practice
by guywhocodes on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @04:22AM
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Very interesting, the reason for cancelling seems to largely hold true today.
Re:Linux Desktop on Apple Silicon/M1 in Practice
by chung1905 on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @06:05AM
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I'm curious, is there any reason that ARM doesn't have a standard platform? Or they are working on that?
Re:Linux Desktop on Apple Silicon/M1 in Practice
by my123 on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @06:35AM
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It does, and it's called Arm SystemReady.
UEFI + ACPI is required on Arm if you want to boot Windows or RHEL/CentOS, which do not even try to boot on non-standardised 64-bit Arm systems.
Re:Linux Desktop on Apple Silicon/M1 in Practice
by Vogtinator on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @08:01AM
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Same for SLES/openSUSE, except for some platforms (RPi) where they use u-boot to provide EFI.
"I think ARM is a very promising platform," he said. "At the same time, the ARM community has never had the notion of a standard platform. ARM never had the PC."
https://www.networkworld.com/article/2220438/linus-torvalds-...