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Re:In Defense of Myers Briggs (2020) by Quekid5 on Saturday February 27, 2021 @11:30PM (#26290679)
I'm going to suggest a hypothetical. Let's ignore any personality test specifics just to generalize.

Ok, so I have a candidate for a position, who shows +5% to "conscientiousness". What does that mean, practically, for me as an employer? It means exactly nothing, because that trait is so vague as to be ... meaningless. (That's just the start of the problems with these tests.)

Even if it M-B (or whatever) is a repeatable effect it has no value as a predictor of performance of a single individual. In aggregate, maybe... (but also no, see the wiki).

It's just people playing Management Consultant extracting money from Management.

Re:In Defense of Myers Briggs (2020) by at_a_remove on Sunday February 28, 2021 @12:49AM (#26291007)
Imagine you have a job that is highly detail-oriented. Perhaps data must be perfect or a number of steps must be followed but checking the employee's work might be cumbersome.

You have two applicants, roughly equal. One scores higher on conscientiousness ...

Re:In Defense of Myers Briggs (2020) by sosborn on Sunday February 28, 2021 @01:20AM (#26291117)
Do you believe that measurement is actually accurate?
Re:In Defense of Myers Briggs (2020) by at_a_remove on Sunday February 28, 2021 @02:34AM (#26291429)
Well, we were discussing the utility of such a test. I would assume that by the time we got to the point of utility, we would have agreed that the thing itself was valid. There's no point in discussing the utility of a thing that didn't work.
Re:In Defense of Myers Briggs (2020) by ncmncm on Saturday February 27, 2021 @11:45PM (#26290764)
For somebody who admits having no idea what it's for, you seem awfully confident of your opinion.
Re:In Defense of Myers Briggs (2020) by Quekid5 on Saturday February 27, 2021 @11:50PM (#26290782)
> For somebody who admits having no idea what it's for

I'm sorry, what?

I did ask that as a rhetorical flourish in a different thread (as a response to you, in fact), but c'mon. You specifically said

> It's not science, or science-adjacent, or anything to do with science. It doesn't pretend to be. That's not what it's for.

I note that you didn't answer my other question: how do you justify its use if it's not 'science'.

EDIT: Btw, my allusion was to a comment by Stephen Fry in a debate. (Specifics are no doubt going to lead to more contention, so I'll omit them.)

Re:In Defense of Myers Briggs (2020) by ncmncm on Sunday February 28, 2021 @12:03AM (#26290832)
Some people insist science=good, therefore not-science=not-good. But the world is bigger than that.

Your responsibility as a human is to discover value in things you encounter. Failing to find it is just failing, and says more about you than about things.

Re:In Defense of Myers Briggs (2020) by dang on Sunday February 28, 2021 @12:16AM (#26290876)
Please don't cross into personal attack in HN threads. It's not what this site is for, and wrecks what it is for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:In Defense of Myers Briggs (2020) by ncmncm on Sunday February 28, 2021 @12:59AM (#26291035)
I am not attacking anyone, personally or otherwise. What I wrote applies to anybody, myself included.
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Re:In Defense of Myers Briggs (2020) by dang on Sunday February 28, 2021 @12:17AM (#26290881)
Please stop.