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Re:Lyra: A New Very Low-Bitrate Codec for Speech Compression by londons_explore on Saturday February 27, 2021 @01:13AM (#26283075)
What is the purpose of putting effort into such low bitrate audio?

A 3g connection on a decade old phone with a low signal strength might only get 50 kbps, but it tends to be bursty (ie. Offline for a few seconds, then a few hundred kilobytes arriving all at once).

That makes it impractical for audio conferencing. It might be useful for streaming YouTube, but for that it would need to be able to encode music and sound effects reasonably too.

Re:Lyra: A New Very Low-Bitrate Codec for Speech Compression by ksec on Sunday February 28, 2021 @01:03AM (#26291051)
Exactly my same thought. At least in the context of Internet Audio Conference.

Even 3G AMR, I think that was pre 2000 Speech Codec started at 5Kbps. With a latency of only ~20ms. If I am reading correctly the encode due to ML nature would take at least 40ms on Lyra.

I am sure there are some specific usage that would be a great use case. But most consumer consumption I cant think of one on top of my head. One should also be aware of the current roadmap in 5G and the on going work in 6G. We still have a long way to go in maximising bandwidth / transfer per capita.

It seems to be the case ML codec wants to take these speech codec to new low bitrate. While it is fun doing it as a research, I much rather they push the envelop at least 6 / 8Kbps closer to perfection with even lower latency ( 10ms if not lower ).

Re:Lyra: A New Very Low-Bitrate Codec for Speech Compression by WalterGR on Saturday February 27, 2021 @02:10AM (#26283288)
(Some) new codecs use the increase in available bandwidth (the increase simply by virtue of the audio itself using less bandwidth) to improve redundancy and better handle burst loss.
Re:Lyra: A New Very Low-Bitrate Codec for Speech Compression by IshKebab on Saturday February 27, 2021 @12:21PM (#26286294)
Lower bitrates give you more space for redundancy, forward error correction an so on.

And as you said, in some situations you do have really low bandwidth available.

Re:Lyra: A New Very Low-Bitrate Codec for Speech Compression by teddyh on Monday March 01, 2021 @04:29PM (#26308684)
Surveillance devices which need to compress audio down to almost nothing in order to hide its data traffic?
Re:Lyra: A New Very Low-Bitrate Codec for Speech Compression by ysleepy on Saturday February 27, 2021 @04:43AM (#26283748)
1 hour of audiobook in 2.6MB ?

I quite love this.