The Framework Laptop

Re:The Framework Laptop by nrp on Thursday February 25, 2021 @01:00PM (#26265856)

Our Embedded Controller firmware is based on chromium ec, and we're using a mature off the shelf BIOS solution shipping in other notebooks today. We chose our key components with driver stability across both Windows and Linux in mind. We know this is something we have to get right to deliver a credible competitor to all the great notebooks already in the market, so it is something we focused on from the start.

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Re:The Framework Laptop by abrowne on Thursday February 25, 2021 @01:33PM (#26266313)

Please support the Linux Vendor Firmware Service https://fwupd.org/ :-)

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Re:The Framework Laptop by southerntofu on Thursday February 25, 2021 @05:02PM (#26268893)

Hi, i'm interested about details. Are they on a wiki somewhere?

> driver stability across both Windows and Linux

Is "Linux" in this case mainline linux or does entail to use nvidia/ati proprietary drivers? If mainline linux, is it a free driver, or a binary blob? (see linux-libre)

> a mature off the shelf BIOS solution

Is coreboot/libreboot on your roadmap?

I'm not trying to nitpick. Congratulations on the hardware design that looks amazing (replaceable port extensions, clever!). I strongly believe software is also an important part of reliability/durability, that's why my questions :)

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Re:The Framework Laptop by rkangel on Friday February 26, 2021 @06:45AM (#26273803)

Have you considered providing an out of the box Linux experience?

I have no intention of using the Ubuntu provided with a Lenovo laptop if I buy one, but the fact that that there is a fully working Linux distro for that machine means that all of the requisite bits and pieces are somewhere in the Open Source community (and because I use Fedora, I'm almost certainly using a new enough version of Kernel, Gnome etc. that they're already there).

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Re:The Framework Laptop by Tijdreiziger on Thursday February 25, 2021 @06:51PM (#26269896)

> Our Embedded Controller firmware is based on chromium ec

Sorry, I'm having trouble parsing this statement. Your 'embedded controller' (whatever that may be) firmware is based on a web browser?

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Re:The Framework Laptop by eightails on Thursday February 25, 2021 @07:03PM (#26270005)

I think they are referring to part of the Chromium OS project, which seems to be open source firmware for basic device functions including "power sequencing, keyboard control, thermal control, battery charging, and verified boot" [0]

[0] https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/platform/ec/+/m...

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Re:The Framework Laptop by Tijdreiziger on Thursday February 25, 2021 @07:13PM (#26270071)

Ah, I didn't know Chrome OS had an OSS counterpart. Thanks!

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Re:The Framework Laptop by QuinnWilton on Thursday February 25, 2021 @07:03PM (#26270003)

Chromium EC. It's the part of Chromebooks that handles things like keypresses: https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/platform/ec/+/m...

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Re:The Framework Laptop by cpill on Thursday February 25, 2021 @02:18PM (#26266931)

if you have a fingerprint reader that works in Linux I'm in!

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Re:The Framework Laptop by odysseus on Thursday February 25, 2021 @07:51PM (#26270320)

My Thinkpad fingerprint reader works in Linux. Well, it works perhaps 80-85% of the time. See https://askubuntu.com/questions/1231185/fingerprint-login-in...

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Re:The Framework Laptop by kieranl on Thursday February 25, 2021 @03:28PM (#26267835)

Working on it!

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Re:The Framework Laptop by john4532452 on Friday February 26, 2021 @01:09AM (#26271794)

Will the user be able to replace custom BIOS, that is a killer feature no notebook or laptop offers ?

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