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Re:OpenStreetMap charts a controversial new direction by damnafrica on Friday February 19, 2021 @03:38PM (#26197759)
If we look very well at it we see Apple made the most contributions to map Africa. Who's going to complain about that? Google, maybe? I guess african roads don't suit the google maps cars.
Re:OpenStreetMap charts a controversial new direction by londons_explore on Friday February 19, 2021 @04:10PM (#26198067)
It's also a curious business decision... Apple doesn't make much revenue in Africa, nor have many users there. Why direct all their mapping efforts there?
Re:OpenStreetMap charts a controversial new direction by xmprt on Friday February 19, 2021 @06:31PM (#26199487)
Africa is the largest growing continent and just like China has been an extremely important market for many companies, so too will many developing African countries. Apple would love to be the market leader there and any headstart they can get will pay dividends in the future.
Re:OpenStreetMap charts a controversial new direction by sofixa on Saturday February 20, 2021 @03:29AM (#26202588)
But Apple products are generally extremely expensive ( usually at least multiples of the cheapest equivalents), and that kind of thing doesn't sell well in underdeveloped developing nations, which cover most of Africa. Just look at median income and GDP PPP in China, and any African country. The mere fact that China is actively (kindof) neocolonising multiple different African countries should be telling as well.
Re:OpenStreetMap charts a controversial new direction by joosters on Friday February 19, 2021 @04:19PM (#26198167)
No-one said that Apple directs all (or even most, or even just a significant proportion) of their mapping efforts there. Should they ignore a continent?
Re:OpenStreetMap charts a controversial new direction by pydry on Friday February 19, 2021 @04:28PM (#26198247)
It makes sense to commoditize their complement.
Re:OpenStreetMap charts a controversial new direction by astrange on Friday February 19, 2021 @06:12PM (#26199303)
Diversity and inclusion?
Re:OpenStreetMap charts a controversial new direction by BoorishBears on Friday February 19, 2021 @04:37PM (#26198335)
Yeah and I guess American roads don't suit the google maps cars either.

I mean just look at them: https://i1.wp.com/thirdeyemom.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08...

Re:OpenStreetMap charts a controversial new direction by mkl on Friday February 19, 2021 @07:24PM (#26199949)
That seems to be in Haiti: https://thirdeyemom.com/2017/08/02/what-it-is-like-to-drive-... (it's in the first slideshow).
Re:OpenStreetMap charts a controversial new direction by BoorishBears on Friday February 19, 2021 @10:23PM (#26201201)
Yes exactly, a American country with terrible roads.

How can Google map roads in the Americas with their terrible roads?

We don't make distinctions between any African countries anymore so I think it's only fair we start treating the other continents the same way.

(I mean of parts the US are close enough to third world countries anyways, 11 year olds dying in mobile homes because corrupt leaders hobbled basic utilities and all)

Re:OpenStreetMap charts a controversial new direction by mkl on Friday February 19, 2021 @10:32PM (#26201256)
"American" implies it's in the USA, like if someone is described as "American", they're from the USA. European, Asian, African, Australian, North American, and South American all refer to the continent, Antarctican seems to be a similar word (without much use, unsurprisingly), but I don't think there is one for the whole Americas in English, because "American" isn't it.
Re:OpenStreetMap charts a controversial new direction by BoorishBears on Friday February 19, 2021 @11:39PM (#26201639)
Someone is from the Americas I'm going to call them American. What say do people from the continent get anyways?

They're all the same sh*thole countries anyways with corrupt leaders full of murders and rapists right?

One let a TV clown run them into the ground, another is run by drug cartels, awful continent.

If I, a Ghanaian, have to constantly go by "African", then the US being lumped in with Hati shouldn't be inaccurate at all.

Weird you thought otherwise.

Re:OpenStreetMap charts a controversial new direction by phobosanomaly on Saturday February 20, 2021 @01:48AM (#26202180)
There's no other word for people from the United States because of the weird naming of the country.

Canada - Canadians, Mexico - Mexicans, Brazil - Brazilians.

United States - ......United Statesians?

That's like people from the DRC calling themselves 'Democratic Republic of the Congolesians.' Nope, they just shortened it to Congolese. The United States of America just did the same thing. 'Americans.'

They all use it, and for the most part so do their neighbors.

Until some clever soul figures out a better way for the bologna of the North American sandwich to refer to it's citizens, the largest collection of English speakers on the planet will probably keep on trucking with the same boring term.

Re:OpenStreetMap charts a controversial new direction by BoorishBears on Saturday February 20, 2021 @12:04PM (#26205720)
It's incredible how dense people can be when their world view is so narrow.

The point isn't there should be a word for it, the point is Africa is not a damn country. Such obvious facetiousness but thick skulls can only fixate on "wHuT amErIcAnS Are thE US"

South Africa has as much in common Sudan as the US has with Haiti

There are plenty of countries on the continent than can (and have been) mapped by Google Maps.

Saying that Africa is somehow inhospitable to Google Maps is exactly like acting like North America is inhospitable to Google Maps because Haiti has bad roads.

Hell I'd take driving on the roads in that Haiti picture over some in places like "Chiraq", probably less chance of a bad outcome in a Google Maps car.

Re:OpenStreetMap charts a controversial new direction by jobigoud on Saturday February 20, 2021 @03:05AM (#26202479)
This unitedstatesian exists in other languages. In Spanish: estadounidense (in broad use). In French: étatsunien (rarer).
Re:OpenStreetMap charts a controversial new direction by jobigoud on Saturday February 20, 2021 @03:09AM (#26202499)
> the largest collection of English speakers on the planet

Indians?

Re:OpenStreetMap charts a controversial new direction by phobosanomaly on Saturday February 20, 2021 @03:26AM (#26202576)
I wikipedia'd it before I posted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_English-s...

United States - Total English Speakers: 283,160,411

India - Total English Speakers: 246,344,737

Re:OpenStreetMap charts a controversial new direction by jobigoud on Saturday February 20, 2021 @06:14AM (#26203328)
In that article the Indian pop is from the 2001 census at 1,028 M. Current population is 1,388 M, keeping the same percentage of English speakers would place it at +305M speakers, although doing the same for USA also place it at +310M.

That being said I think the table is wrong because the numbers don't add up to the total and also don't match the source. Based on that census India should have only 12.18% of English speakers, not 22.18%, so you should be correct in any cases.

Re:OpenStreetMap charts a controversial new direction by BugWatch on Monday February 22, 2021 @09:21PM (#26233171)
US(-Amer)icans.
Re:OpenStreetMap charts a controversial new direction by mkl on Friday February 19, 2021 @11:56PM (#26201704)
I'm not American, or from the Americas, I'm just letting you know the meaning native English speakers will take from the word. Call non-Americans American if you want, but don't be surprised when you're misunderstood.
Re:OpenStreetMap charts a controversial new direction by BoorishBears on Saturday February 20, 2021 @11:57AM (#26205633)
You should learn the meaning of the word "facetious".

And I'm not sure what makes you think I'm not a native speaker of English.

Apparently you don't even understand blatant sarcasm, are you one?

Re:OpenStreetMap charts a controversial new direction by mkl on Saturday February 20, 2021 @07:42PM (#26209650)
> You should learn the meaning of the word "facetious".

I know it well.

> And I'm not sure what makes you think I'm not a native speaker of English.

You apparently don't know the definition of "American". I have never seen a native speaker make a mistake like that.

> Apparently you don't even understand blatant sarcasm, are you one?

I understand sarcasm just fine. Calling a Haitian road "American" is not sarcasm. Yes, English is my first and only language.

You said a picture was from the USA, and I doubted this, so I went and spent time chasing down the actual source. That's not facetiousness or sarcasm, that's either an innocent error, or misleading and antisocial. I interpreted it as innocent error, and attempted to politely correct your knowledge and explain, and now you reply with this argumentative comment, implying you deliberately attempted to mislead and waste our time. I won't reply further.

Re:OpenStreetMap charts a controversial new direction by BoorishBears on Sunday February 21, 2021 @12:02AM (#26210948)
You're just too dense to understand what was said, you shouldn't have replied in the first place.

Person implies somehow Africa, the continent, is somehow unsuitable for Google maps vehicles (despite the fact Google has mapped hundreds of tens of thousands of miles in multiple countries in the continent)

This comes from treating all of Africa like it's one giant country with the same infrastructure everywhere.

I facetiously (a word you do NOT understand apparently) show a picture of Haiti, a North American country and say, since their roads are terrible all North American roads are terrible, and refer to an entire continent as if it were a single country that includes the US.

From here your subpar English skills fail you, to the point I'm forced to use a word somewhat similar to facetious but not quite as accurate (sarcasm) because the proper word is above your understanding.

Sometimes being imprecise allows a person with a challenged vocabulary such as yourself to catch up, but of course the Dunning-Kruger effect is in full force here, so you use it as an assertation that you're not the one failing to understand basic vocabulary.

It's a shame English is your only language and yet mastery of it escapes you.