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Re:The frame rate of the universe (2009) by AnIdiotOnTheNet on Thursday February 18, 2021 @05:54PM (#26186973)
I think a more interesting question is: would it matter if it were?
Re:The frame rate of the universe (2009) by joshualedbetter on Thursday February 18, 2021 @06:20PM (#26187225)
Imagine a robot trying to argue that it doesn't if they live in Westworld; I mean, the robot bar tender still has to tend bar. Imagine Truman trying to convince himself that it doesn't matter if he's in a TV show or not.

Their arguments, no matter how clever, would be absurd when looking in from the outside.

If there's a high probability that the simulation hypothesis is true, it seems clinically insane to believe that it doesn't matter.

Re:The frame rate of the universe (2009) by AnIdiotOnTheNet on Thursday February 18, 2021 @08:37PM (#26188415)
Let's assume the simulation hypothesis is true: our universe is a computer program. Now what? Do our lives suddenly cease to have meaning?
Re:The frame rate of the universe (2009) by Teever on Friday February 19, 2021 @01:50AM (#26190437)
It's not a judgement on he meaning of your life it's a judgement on the authenticity of your life and the accuracy of your view of the world.

Which view point is better -- one that believes in a flat earth or one that sees the world as spherical and all that this fact entails?

A flat Earther can't put a rover on Mars but someone who knows that the world is round can.

Imagine what a person who comes to understand that the world is a simulation could do.

Re:The frame rate of the universe (2009) by AnIdiotOnTheNet on Friday February 19, 2021 @07:59AM (#26192642)
What you're really arguing for is a deeper understanding of the universe. Whether the universe is a simulation or not is irrelevant.
Re:The frame rate of the universe (2009) by industriousthou on Thursday February 18, 2021 @07:52PM (#26188064)
The thing is Truman and the characters in Westworld (I think, haven't seen it) are being manipulated to create a narrative.

I we were in a simulation where the creator(s) were hands off, just letting it run its course, then I don't think it really matters. If, on the other hand, they're pulling strings and manipulating outcomes for whatever reason, then it seems like it matters a lot more. At least that's my intuition.

Re:The frame rate of the universe (2009) by yourapostasy on Thursday February 18, 2021 @07:22PM (#26187792)
Absolutely. If we are in a simulation, then I want our species to eventually learn how to grab control of the developer console, use that to get information on the physics of the developer's world, use that to learn how to perform the equivalent of Drexlerian nanotech, wet-print ouselves out into the developer's world, and bootstrap into becoming "real", or finding out how far the turtles go from the developer's world. If it is a simulation, then I want to alter the damn rules to eliminate the scarcity we currently labor under.
Re:The frame rate of the universe (2009) by AnIdiotOnTheNet on Thursday February 18, 2021 @08:44PM (#26188465)
> Absolutely. If we are in a simulation, then I want our species to [...] bootstrap into becoming "real"

Why? Undoubtedly the world outside our own has its own problems, all of which are possibly utterly alien to us.

> or finding out how far the turtles go from the developer's world.

To what end? Why is the top-most reality more valuable? If it is merely a matter of having more to explore, well, there's still plenty of this universe left.

> If it is a simulation, then I want to alter the damn rules to eliminate the scarcity we currently labor under.

Fair enough, but if there's a way to do that it hardly matters if we're in a simulation or not. Any exploit we pull off may as well just be some quirk of physics from our perspective.

Re:The frame rate of the universe (2009) by yourapostasy on Saturday February 20, 2021 @06:42AM (#26203438)
> Why?

Selfishly, I don't want our reality to be turned off.

All other motivations follow from that, as intermediate steps to figure out how to break out and become more permanent. Even if I'm a consciousness inside a Boltzmann Brain near the heat death of the reality-actual, a hundred Sol years passing for every "second" of simulation "tick", I want help in whatever way I can on a solution to beat entropy. Not going gentle and all that...

Re:The frame rate of the universe (2009) by Cpoll on Friday February 19, 2021 @12:15AM (#26190023)
Re:The frame rate of the universe (2009) by tutfbhuf on Thursday February 18, 2021 @06:20PM (#26187231)
It depends on who you ask. I personally would like to have an answer to that question if it exists, but if it doesn't well that's okay too.