Re:There’s no such thing as “a startup within a big company”
by codemac on Thursday February 18, 2021 @05:34PM
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This is why it was a founder that complained about the equity/pay problems, rather than any engineer.
If they actually rewarded their Waze employees with enough equity, the employees would have pushed much harder to not get acquired and been much more upset afterwards. You should be highly suspect of any investor or founder that thinks an acquisition is a successful outcome.
What's clear is that Waze employees finally got compensated fairly, and the founders suddenly didn't have 100x upside. There's a reason it's a founder with the frown at TGIF at Google, and all the employees are excited and smiling.
They're finally getting paid.
Re:There’s no such thing as “a startup within a big company”
by stuff4ben on Thursday February 18, 2021 @10:42AM
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Yes, while financially you may be better with BigCorp, there are some benefits of startups that I experienced first hand. First is the experience of being a fast-moving startup and the comradeship that you build with your colleagues. I'm still friends with people I worked with at my first startup 15 years ago. Second is the learning experience of being around very smart people. I learned so much in my 4 years at my first startup. From how startups work (and that my equity was worthless) to how to do modern (at the time) development in Java. Finally, as someone mentioned earlier, you get to see how your work moves the needle. That feedback cycle is addictive! Also, you can see when you screw up the opposite happen (I once personally caused a loss of a couple hundred dollars in revenue due to a bad SQL query).
Even if engineers hit the startup lottery, the payout for most are not that much. Very few end with multi million dollar payouts.
Statistically, financials are better with big company offers for most engineers.
Some engineers that get in early with a unicorn can hit the jackpot. This is mostly combination of timing and luck and network. Some just happened to be in the right place at the right time with right group of people. PayPal engineers, early Google engineers.
Early Apple engineers were not so lucky.