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Re:Conservative radio personality Rush Limbaugh has died at ... by ggm on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @03:11PM (#26171043)
It's very likely this comment thread space is going to get very ugly. Having declared my bias: (I didn't like him, or his views), the interesting question to me would be was he a product of, or one of the producers of our times?
Re:Conservative radio personality Rush Limbaugh has died at ... by ternaryoperator on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @03:30PM (#26171303)
As the article states, he was one of the first of his type of conservative DJs, so I think it's fair to put him at the front of the parade, rather than just going along for the ride.
Re:Conservative radio personality Rush Limbaugh has died at ... by samizdis on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @03:31PM (#26171315)
He was certainly a producer of our times, in that he fanned many flames and attracted a fanbase/cult whose actions/opinions he informed. But he was also a product of our times, in that people with a media platform/spotlight now have the tools to make money by leading the masses, whereas such opportunity wasn't available before the explosion of broadcast/cable media, subsequently amplified by social media.
Re:Conservative radio personality Rush Limbaugh has died at ... by Fjolsvith on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @04:59PM (#26172373)
IIRC, he ran the country from Florida in a Bermuda shirt.
Re:Conservative radio personality Rush Limbaugh has died at ... by ggm on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @11:17PM (#26175704)
Ran the country but couldn't fix the problems. I actually think he was given more prominence as a noise/distraction by people who really ran the country, which is entirely normal.
Re:Conservative radio personality Rush Limbaugh has died at ... by stevenhubertron on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @03:15PM (#26171104)
It will certainly be interesting how history plays out on the last 20 years in America. So much has happened both good and evil. I wonder who/what will make the cut in the history books.
Re:Conservative radio personality Rush Limbaugh has died at ... by samizdis on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @03:35PM (#26171378)
Interesting, certainly, but tricky: who gets to write the history books?
Re:Conservative radio personality Rush Limbaugh has died at ... by ggm on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @11:16PM (#26175699)
AskHistorians, in due course. They disagree violently amongst themselves offstage but will fight alongside each other to stop anyone else saying the truth in public. You can be a primary source: They decide its validity.

Mostly I do now believe History needs 50+ years to get distance from the personal. I like Martin Gilbert and Anthony Beevor immensely. I've had both Russian, and American historian-aligned-people take them down gloriously. I don't think either Gilbert or Beevor are seen in good standing, all the time by people in Moscow and Harvard.

Re:Conservative radio personality Rush Limbaugh has died at ... by krapp on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @03:33PM (#26171348)
Both. Everyone is a product of their times, but Rush was also unequivocally one of the primary influencers of American conservative and Republican politics in his lifetime.
Re:Conservative radio personality Rush Limbaugh has died at ... by mg5150 on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @03:50PM (#26171568)
I'd say both. He took prevailing conservative groupthink of the Lee Atwater school and weaponized it to become one of the OG alt-reich trolls[1], to quote somebody who apparently plays too many JRPGs.

> The man was a fucking demagogue. He made his fortune peddling cryptofascist propaganda while calling himself a “conservative”. He helped set the stage for the resurgence of right-wing authoritarianism, white supremacy, and neo-Nazism in the United States. He was the OG alt-reich troll, and his grave should have a pay toilet in place of a headstone.

[1]: https://demifiend.org/articles/good-riddance-rush-limbaugh.h...

Re:Conservative radio personality Rush Limbaugh has died at ... by ggm on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @11:14PM (#26175679)
I think Father Coughlin and Charles Lindbergh and Joseph Kennedy have deeper roots in the American view of everything. Rush riffed on it, but he drunk from a well other people dug.

And he had enablers. To me, its like the post-death glorification of Reagan because <cold-war> =It's bullshit.

So "in our times" yea, he was a primary shaper. In broad sense? he was a follower. He had a script. Other people helped write the script.

Re:Conservative radio personality Rush Limbaugh has died at ... by quantified on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @06:17PM (#26173173)
Both.