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Re:Why did I leave Google or, why did I stay so long? by gambiting on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @09:45AM (#26166803)
>>If they really complained about not getting compensated for buying their own food during lockdown I think "entitled" is a fair descriptor.

I very much disagree. If you were getting food at work previously, as in - it was clearly your agreed part of compensation - then I would absolutely complain if suddenly I had to buy my own.

>> But the flipside of that is that, when there's a deadline, I'm very invested in meeting it, even if that means working a lot of hours.

Again, that's fine and if you want to do that yourself, great, everyone would love to have you as an employee. But the second your manager walks in and says "john, I expect you to work this weekend" I'd start looking for a different job. Taking personal responsibility and working harder and more hours to finish something is one thing, being told you have to because your manager demands it is unacceptable.

Re:Why did I leave Google or, why did I stay so long? by slibhb on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @09:58AM (#26166941)
> But the second your manager walks in and says "john, I expect you to work this weekend" I'd start looking for a different job.

Of course. A condition of my personal investment in meeting deadlines is exactly my not being treated like this.

Re:Why did I leave Google or, why did I stay so long? by CydeWeys on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @11:12AM (#26168001)
For what it's worth, food in the United States is very clearly never a part of your agreed-upon compensation in the way that health/retirement benefits are; it is a "team-building office perk" offered by the employer. If it were actually part of your compensation, then you'd be taxed on it.

I know it may be easy to misunderstand this, and to think of it as part of your compensation, because in a way it feels like it, but in a real legal sense as currently structured it very definitely is not part of your compensation.

Re:Why did I leave Google or, why did I stay so long? by ghaff on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @01:01PM (#26169387)
>If it were actually part of your compensation, then you'd be taxed on it.

Which is a somewhat contentious topic. Not an accountant, but seems to be one of those perks that's right at the very edge of IRS rules.

https://www.shrm.org/resourcesandtools/hr-topics/benefits/pa...

Re:Why did I leave Google or, why did I stay so long? by CydeWeys on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @01:47PM (#26169937)
To be clear, my statement was descriptive of present circumstances, not normative. As you point out this is in flux and may be changing in the future. If food does become a taxable benefit and part of overall compensation, then I might expect to start seeing some people opting out of it entirely.
Re:Why did I leave Google or, why did I stay so long? by matwood on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @10:01AM (#26166989)
> But the second your manager walks in and says "john, I expect you to work this weekend" I'd start looking for a different job.

It's definitely a failure of management, but if John was playing games all week and now is being asked to work this weekend to finish, that's also on John. His manager should have stopped the all week playing, but people want to be treated like adults and be given personal responsibility, etc...