How Tim Cook transformed Apple after Steve Jobs

Re:How Tim Cook transformed Apple after Steve Jobs by ChuckNorris89 on Tuesday February 16, 2021 @03:15AM (#26151934)

Ok, but then there are other huge electronics brands like Samsung or Sony. Why don't they qualify as "safe" by this metric?

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Re:How Tim Cook transformed Apple after Steve Jobs by spoonjim on Tuesday February 16, 2021 @03:24AM (#26151985)

Samsung literally sold an exploding phone.

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Re:How Tim Cook transformed Apple after Steve Jobs by ChuckNorris89 on Tuesday February 16, 2021 @03:29AM (#26152005)

Note 7 did explode. But that wasn't due to them cutting corners and they took it quickly off the market and it never happened to another model after they learned the design lesson where you need to give the battery cell space inside the phone to expand.

And how does one battery incident from one brand prove that Apple is the best at making chargers? We're talking about different things here.

"iPhones don't explode so Apple must be the best?"

Samsung Note 7 exploded before it was taken of the market, but any other brand or model did not, so unless you want to hang on the 2016 Samsung Note 7 incident as strawman argument, you have provided no valid arguments.

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Re:How Tim Cook transformed Apple after Steve Jobs by spoonjim on Tuesday February 16, 2021 @03:45AM (#26152107)

An exploding phone is not a straw man argument. It’s an extremely valuable data point.

Who is more likely to commit murder, a randomly selected person or a randomly selected person from those with an existing murder conviction?

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Re:How Tim Cook transformed Apple after Steve Jobs by ChuckNorris89 on Tuesday February 16, 2021 @03:51AM (#26152150)

Sony, LG and many other devices didn't explode, so why aren't their chargers as safe as Apple's by the logic of your arguments so far?

How does one negative battery incident from Samsung prove that Apple makes the safest chargers of ALL the major electronics manufacturers?

Because so far you provided no proof or arguments to support this other than "murderer" metaphors and opinionated brand loyalty wrapped in whataboutism focused towards one particular incident, then move the goalpost from safety to quality instead and I showed you proof that quality does not equal safety or vice versa.

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Re:How Tim Cook transformed Apple after Steve Jobs by spoonjim on Tuesday February 16, 2021 @06:36AM (#26152992)

I never said that Apple makes the absolute safest chargers. What I do know is that: 1) major companies like Samsung have made huge safety blunders 2) Apple has no such history at scale (ie entire product recalls) and analysts find its chargers are well engineered 3) there is no 3. I don’t have the inclination to ascertain the safety of Sony chargers, I’ll just get Apple ones and leave it at that.

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Re:How Tim Cook transformed Apple after Steve Jobs by amelius on Tuesday February 16, 2021 @06:09AM (#26152858)

By that logic ...

Apple phones had antenna problems. You probably should not buy that brand anymore.

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Re:How Tim Cook transformed Apple after Steve Jobs by spoonjim on Tuesday February 16, 2021 @06:37AM (#26152995)

It’s only “by that logic” if you equate bad reception to explosions.

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Re:How Tim Cook transformed Apple after Steve Jobs by ChuckNorris89 on Tuesday February 16, 2021 @07:38AM (#26153309)

>It’s only “by that logic” if you equate bad reception to explosions.

If you keep moving the 'logic' goalposts to justify 'Apple is the best', then let me point out to you that bad reception IS just as bad, if not worse than batteries that could potentially explode.

If you've got an accident or an emergency in a more remote area and can't get a reception to communicate all the details to the emergency services in time, then you or others could very well die.

And, as opposed to batteries which due to chemistry reactions are more unpredictable and complex to lab-test for real world use, antenna design and reception quality can be easily tested in the lab before launching the product (RF engineer here), instead of blaming the users for "holding it wrong", so Apple gets no pardons from me on this life endangering fuckup.

Plus, the phones with battery issues that have actually exploded were not more than a handful, so the risk of you actually being affected was low but all were recalled and refunded vs iPhone 4's poor antenna design which would plague all the phones, all the time and instead of a recall you got a rubber bumper lol.

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