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Re:The worst of the two worlds: Excel meets Outlook by mattmanser on Saturday February 13, 2021 @07:45PM (#26128571)
The MVC and ORM revolutions are the counter-argument to this.

Rails/Django, then ASP.Net MVC/Laravel/whatever Java was was a massive step forward. If you didn't use it, you were hamstringing yourself. People switched to Rails in droves.

As were using ORMs. You'll still get people quibble about this, but never having to go through the tedium of updating 101+ SQL statements when you add a column in a pain you young'uns will never know...

JQuery was actually another example. Cross browser Ajax statements were annoying, plus just manually adding individual HTML nodes in HTML was laborious.

Re:The worst of the two worlds: Excel meets Outlook by pjmlp on Sunday February 14, 2021 @05:08AM (#26131025)
I have not seen people switching to rails in droves over here, it was a fashion wave that came and went.

Apparently they are all now learning Elixir after a short migration wave over to Clojure.

C++, Java and ASP.NET over here for the last 20 years.

Re:The worst of the two worlds: Excel meets Outlook by valenterry on Saturday February 13, 2021 @11:02PM (#26129555)
ORMs are not the only way to avoid/solve the problem of having to update many SQL statements. People complain rightfully about them.