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Re:Chick Corea has died by Softcadbury on Friday February 12, 2021 @03:02AM (#26111584)
Thanks for the story. Sorry, I know nothing about music, how do you paint someone's portrait with a piano? He was able to create a music based on a person?
Re:Chick Corea has died by josh2600 on Friday February 12, 2021 @03:15AM (#26111648)
Chick asked me to sit in a chair a couple feet away from his piano. He stared at me with the a look that seemed to say "whatever you've got, I'll work with it." If I had to imagine how I looked back at him in that moment it would've been the simulacrum of wanderlust and kummerspeck (German for grief bacon). It felt like I was being channeled by a ghost and the chords matched my facade like icing on a cake.

Chick played the piano, all I could do was sit there and listen.

Re:Chick Corea has died by defen on Friday February 12, 2021 @03:22AM (#26111674)
That's a really powerful story, but also

> kummerspeck (German for grief bacon)

Raises more questions than it answers

Re:Chick Corea has died by donquichotte on Friday February 12, 2021 @03:49AM (#26111778)
It's certainly not a common word in German. In fact, this is the first time I've ever seen it, and all google search results are either dictionary entries or English articles that can be attributed to the Anglosphere's obsession with German compound words.

Source: native speaker, reasonably literate

Re:Chick Corea has died by danielh on Friday February 12, 2021 @05:03AM (#26112062)
It is definitely colloquial and not a word you’d use everyday, but it is in Duden:

https://www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/Kummerspeck

Re:Chick Corea has died by mfkp on Friday February 12, 2021 @05:36AM (#26112224)
I love how I just automatically accept the German cookie banner without reading it (but understanding exactly what it says). Modern internet ist scheisse.
Re:Chick Corea has died by Xylakant on Friday February 12, 2021 @04:03AM (#26111832)
Might be regional, I certainly know it, I’m from southwest germany.
Re:Chick Corea has died by MrGilbert on Friday February 12, 2021 @07:10AM (#26112800)
Northern germany also knows it. Maybe it has something to do with age. It's usage has declined over the years, I think. Maybe because it belittles the underlying issue, as it sounds rather "cute" to a native speaker. Just an educated guess, though.
Re:Chick Corea has died by weinzierl on Friday February 12, 2021 @06:16AM (#26112446)
Bavaria (southeast Germany) agrees. It's colloquial and - maybe regional - but not an uncommon word in my experience.
Re:Chick Corea has died by avhception on Friday February 12, 2021 @06:22AM (#26112477)
NRW reporting in, too
Re:Chick Corea has died by tralarpa on Friday February 12, 2021 @05:40AM (#26112242)
Hey, there is somebody wrong in the Internet!!!11

It's a relatively common word. I still remember that I first saw it as a kid in a Garfield comic strip ("Lieber Kummerspeck als gar nichts zu Essen").

focus.de: "Die Wahrheit über Kummerspeck - Wie die Seele uns dick macht"

spiegel.de: "Essen gegen Stress und Frust: Was tun gegen Kummerspeck"

bildderfrau.de: "Warum Kummerspeck so gefährlich ist"

...

Re:Chick Corea has died by usr1106 on Friday February 12, 2021 @06:21AM (#26112470)
I would not call it a common word. But every native speaker who reads more than Facebook status updates should have met it. Being an obvious compound of 2 words really everybody knows it does not require any real learning effort, the first time you see it you understand it intuitively.
Re:Chick Corea has died by baxtr on Friday February 12, 2021 @07:03AM (#26112752)
A discussion about the passing of a great Jazz musician turns into a discussion about a German word about fat.

#onlyonHN

Re:Chick Corea has died by tralarpa on Friday February 12, 2021 @08:03AM (#26113167)
We didn't manage to divert the discussion towards the advantages of Lisp and Rust or the issues with current practices in job interviews.
Re:Chick Corea has died by alien_ on Friday February 12, 2021 @10:24AM (#26114617)
The other week I similarly saw a conversation about calendar optimization to not look like Swiss cheese turn towards discussing the process of making Greek yogurt.
Re:Chick Corea has died by kodisha on Friday February 12, 2021 @08:05AM (#26113176)
This is the content I subscribe here for. :)
Re:Chick Corea has died by rostigerpudel on Friday February 12, 2021 @03:41AM (#26111756)
When you start eating because you are sad, then, given enough time in this state, you will gain weight -> bacon from grief
Re:Chick Corea has died by wholinator2 on Friday February 12, 2021 @03:58AM (#26111814)
It still didn't make sense to me so I googled it and found, "Kummerspeck is the name for excess fat gained by emotional eating – specifically, the excessive eating people do in times of stress or sorrow."

    So it literally refers to the _fat_ (speck) someone gains by eating while feeling _grief or sorrow_ (kummer). Except that the specific word for fat they use is the word for _animal fat_ and in some instances literally means bacon. What an interesting word. 
https://blogs.transparent.com/german/kummerspeck-frustfresse...
Re:Chick Corea has died by cameldrv on Friday February 12, 2021 @04:30AM (#26111936)
Speck is bacon and also (human) fat. Kummerspeck is the fat you get from feeling bad.
Re:Chick Corea has died by usr1106 on Friday February 12, 2021 @06:30AM (#26112521)
>> kummerspeck (German for grief bacon)

> Raises more questions than it answers

True. As a native speaker I know the word, but the sentence makes little sense to me.

One could gain Kummerspeck (over weeks, months or years), but one could not be looking like Kummerspeck or sitting there like Kummerspeck. Unless in English the word has been loaned and the meaning shifted over time as it sometimes happens with loan words.

Re:Chick Corea has died by coldtea on Friday February 12, 2021 @07:14AM (#26112841)
One could gain Kummerspeck (over weeks, months or years), but one could not be looking like Kummerspeck or sitting there like Kummerspeck.

One could very well be in the emotional state for Kummerspeck in that state of their lives, which is what is implied here.

Basically parent means: "[Corea] saw in me that I have wanderlust, and that I'm depressed and fat from it".

That is, the parent feels like Corea identified and expressed his personal and emotional state at the time, with his playing....

Re:Chick Corea has died by josh2600 on Saturday February 13, 2021 @03:36PM (#26126613)
Man, just coming back to this thread. Thank you for saying this. To add a slight bit more color, I didn’t think of myself as fat and depressed in that moment, more that I had been feeling gorged on the emotions of life and had metaphorically eaten my sorrows.

To me, kummerspeck is the feeling of being unable to distinguish between the tears running down your face or the grease on your chin. It’s a feeling of relishing in the grief of burying someone who would want you to eat a ton of bacon at their funeral to celebrate their life.

Emotions are rarely simple or easy to explain. It’s still worth the effort to try though.

Re:Chick Corea has died by btkramer9 on Friday February 12, 2021 @09:33AM (#26114002)
Not sure why English speakers are in love with German compound words but add me to the list because this phrase is wonderful
Re:Chick Corea has died by dhosek on Friday February 12, 2021 @03:26PM (#26118158)
Spanish has some wonderful compound words as well.

Puzzle = rompecabezas (literally, breaks heads)

mask (like we've been wearing for the last year) = tapabocas (covers/plugs mouths)

half-sleep = duermevela (sleep candle)

There are more, these are just two of my favorites.

Re:Chick Corea has died by busfahrer on Friday February 12, 2021 @08:22AM (#26113327)
As a German it's amusing to me that a translation was given for Kummerspeck, but not for Wanderlust.
Re:Chick Corea has died by wheels on Friday February 12, 2021 @08:30AM (#26113396)
Wanderlust is commonly used as a loanword in English.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/wanderlust

Re:Chick Corea has died by jgwil2 on Friday February 12, 2021 @10:52AM (#26114958)
Both wander and lust are also English words, albeit with slightly different shades of meaning, so it should be comprehensible to a non-German speaker who has never encountered it before, whereas Kummerspeck would not be.
Re:Chick Corea has died by martyvis on Friday February 12, 2021 @04:18PM (#26118657)
Coincidentally I saw a tweet yesterday which said that albeit looks like a German word but isn't
Re:Chick Corea has died by MockObject on Friday February 12, 2021 @09:05AM (#26113736)
As an American it's amusing to me that Wanderlust means the same in German, since both words are English as well.
Re:Chick Corea has died by cycomanic on Friday February 12, 2021 @10:57AM (#26115021)
To another German it's amusing that the individual words exist in German and English, but don't quite mean the same things in each language, i.e. are not really translations of each other.
Re:Chick Corea has died by harveywi on Friday February 12, 2021 @11:25AM (#26115321)
> Chick asked me to sit in a chair a couple feet away from his piano. He stared at me with the a look that seemed to say "whatever you've got, I'll work with it." If I had to imagine how I looked back at him in that moment it would've been the simulacrum of a mathematical model of computation that defines an abstract machine that manipulates symbols on a strip of tape according to a table of rules. It felt like I was being imitated, state by state, symbol by symbol, my inner-most thoughts understood but unspoken as my utterances were scribbled onto the infinite tape.

> I was also a newly married man who had gained some weight.

> As Chick tickled the ivories, he whispered, "I shall call the song of your life 'The Imitation Game'."

> A moment later, he whispered my name. I do not recall me telling him my name.

> "I wrote this for you, Benedict Kummerspeck," whispered Chick.