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Re:What you can learn about medieval Europe if you focus on ... by konjin on Thursday February 11, 2021 @10:39PM (#26110521)
>That completely got wrong what the Medieval period really was - the transition from Roman imperial rule to early-modern European states, and a small industrial revolution in technology including agriculture and navigation.

The Dark Ages are from ~500AD to ~900AD and as a term were first used in the 14th century. I don't know how else you would describe a period in which population was reduced to less than a quarter of what it had been at the peak of the Pax Romana.

Re:What you can learn about medieval Europe if you focus on ... by infradig on Friday February 12, 2021 @02:03AM (#26111336)
I don't know why you are down voted, what you are saying is factually correct and the comment you responded to was wrong about the Dark Ages. The Dark Ages preceded the Medieval Period.
Re:What you can learn about medieval Europe if you focus on ... by ljf on Friday February 12, 2021 @03:27AM (#26111705)
I always thought that the Dark Ages /was/ the middle ages and that dark referred (at least initially) to the lack of records.

Wikipedia agrees but I am certainly no expert in this:

The "Dark Ages" is a historical periodization traditionally referring to the Early Middle Ages or Middle Ages, that asserts that a demographic, cultural, and economic deterioration occurred in Western Europe following the decline of the Roman Empire.[1][2]

Petrarch, who conceived the idea of a European "Dark Age". From Cycle of Famous Men and Women, Andrea di Bartolo di Bargilla, c. 1450 The term employs traditional light-versus-darkness imagery to contrast the era's "darkness" (lack of records) with earlier and later periods of "light" (abundance of records).

Re:What you can learn about medieval Europe if you focus on ... by adamjb on Friday February 12, 2021 @03:26AM (#26111695)
>The Dark Ages are from ~500AD to ~900AD and as a term were first used in the 14th century.

Petrarch, the 14th C dude you're referencing, believed in a two age history demarcated by the fall of Rome and that he was living in dark, post-Roman world. The three age history of light-dark-light that would give us the term middle ages/medieval wouldn't come til the 15th C with Bruni when he tacked a modern age onto Petrarch's scheme.

Re:What you can learn about medieval Europe if you focus on ... by cygx on Friday February 12, 2021 @03:38AM (#26111746)
From what I've read, Petrarch did hope for some sort of Roman revival - so arguably, he can be seen as a spiritual successor to the three age approach...